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  • From: Polycarp66 AT aol.com
  • To: lizfried AT umich.edu, b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Elohim
  • Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 09:30:57 EST

In a message dated 2/8/2003 9:25:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,
lizfried AT umich.edu writes:

> It just occurred to me that there is a certain similarity
> between what the necromancer said when she saw
> Samuel rise up (out of the grave) and what the doubting
> Thomas said when he saw Jesus (rise up out of the grave).
>

Don't keep us in suspense. As Ross Perot said, "I'm all ears." Spill the
beans.

gfsomsel
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Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] LORD
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In a message dated 2/8/2003 9:26:58 AM Eastern Standard Time,
furuli AT online.no writes:

> I teach my students of Hebrew that they should read adonay or elohim
> when they meet YHWH in the text, as you probably do as well. When
> they translate the text, they are free to use "the Lord", "Yahweh",
> or "Jehovah", or "Yahu". Why would it be "a very unwelcome
> situation" if people said Yahweh? I would view it as a very welcome
> situation. With all respect of those who view the name as ineffable,
> we must admit that this view goes contrary to linguistic and
> translational rules just as much as the trinity doctrine. There is
> absolutely nothing in the text of the Tanach itself that say that a
> substitute should be used instead of the pronunciation of YHWH. To
> the contrary, the use of it is encouraged.
>

Jewish tradition does have some objection to its usage. A proper respect for
the sensibilities of other might be to avoid its use except in academic
situations where such matters must be discussed.

gfsomsel
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i too have learned a great deal from our recent discussions:

1- in spite of our best efforts most folk who consider themeselves occupied
with scholarly concerns are as locked into preconceptions and a priori
assumptions as billy bob in the movie *deliverance*.

2- logic and rational argument play virtually no part in investigations of
textual meaning.

3- texts are eisegeted much more than they are exegeted.

best

jim

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Jim West, ThD

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