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  • From: "B. M. Rocine" <brocine AT twcny.rr.com>
  • To: "Sesamo m." <sesamox AT hotmail.com>, <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Help
  • Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 13:20:36 -0500

You can go to
http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman-2.1/options/sesamox AT hotmail.com
where I think you can chage your settings to "no mail."

If you cannot get in because you do not have your password, ask for a
reminder, and you will receive your password via e-mail shortly. Then you
can get in to the interface to change your settings.

You will have to go to
http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman-2.1/listinfo/b-hebrew to view archives.

Good blessings,
Bryan Rocine
b-hebrew co-chair

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sesamo m." <sesamox AT hotmail.com>
To: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 3:19 AM
Subject: [b-hebrew] Help


> Hello,
>
> I wouldn't like to receive the information in my e-mail address, I prefer
to
> check the web site. How can I do it?
>
> Thanks!
> Sergio
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: b-hebrew-request AT lists.ibiblio.org
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> >To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >Subject: b-hebrew Digest, Vol 1, Issue 8
> >Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 22:45:18 -0500 (EST)
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> >Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. RE: 'Blessing' - Root from??? (Trevor Peterson)
> > 2. Re: 'Blessing' - Root from??? (Kirk Lowery)
> > 3. RE: Unicode Hebrew fonts, was: Transliteration Schemes
> > (Paul Zellmer)
> > 4. RE: The Meaning of brkh (Peter Kirk)
> > 5. RE: RE: Transliteration Schemes (Peter Kirk)
> > 6. RE: Unicode Hebrew fonts, was: Transliteration Schemes
> > (Peter Kirk)
> > 7. RE: Unicode Hebrew fonts, was: Transliteration Schemes
> > (Peter Kirk)
> > 8. RE: Unicode Hebrew fonts (Peter Kirk)
> > 9. RE: Unicode Hebrew fonts, was: Transliteration Schemes
> > (Peter Kirk)
> >
> >
> >----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 16:45:33 -0500
> >From: Trevor Peterson <06PETERSON AT cua.edu>
> >To: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.Ibiblio.org>
> >Subject: RE: [b-hebrew] 'Blessing' - Root from???
> >Message-ID: <3E2AC36F AT 136.242.14.28>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
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> >
> > >===== Original Message From watts-westmaas <watts-westmaas AT zonnet.nl>
> >=====
> > >And why would a verb,
> > >(BRCH), that essentially linked to 'Kneeling' also be used to mean 'To
> > >Curse' since I know of at least 4 hebrew words for 'Curse'? Thankyou
all.
> >
> >I think it's generally understood to be a euphemism, so instead of
actually
> >saying "curse," you could be more polite by saying "bless."
> >
> >Trevor Peterson
> >CUA/Semitics
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 17:21:54 -0500
> >From: Kirk Lowery <klowery AT wts.edu>
> >Cc: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.Ibiblio.org>
> >Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] 'Blessing' - Root from???
> >Message-ID: <3E2DC802.4090407 AT wts.edu>
> >In-Reply-To: <3E2AC36F AT 136.242.14.28>
> >References: <3E2AC36F AT 136.242.14.28>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
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> >
> >Trevor Peterson wrote:
> >
> > >>===== Original Message From watts-westmaas <watts-westmaas AT zonnet.nl>
> >=====
> > >>And why would a verb,
> > >>(BRCH), that essentially linked to 'Kneeling' also be used to mean 'To
> > >>Curse' since I know of at least 4 hebrew words for 'Curse'? Thankyou
> >all.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >I think it's generally understood to be a euphemism, so instead of
> >actually
> > >saying "curse," you could be more polite by saying "bless."
> > >
> > >
> >Here are some places where BRK is understood to be euphemistic:
> >
> >1 Kings 21:10,13
> >Job 1:5,11
> >
> >Blessings (no euphemism intended! :-)
> >
> >Kirk
> >--
> >Kirk E. Lowery, Ph.D.
> >Director, Westminster Hebrew Institute
> >Adjunct Professor of Old Testament
> >Westminster Theological Seminary, Philadelphia
> >
> >Theorie ist, wenn man alles weiss und nichts klappt.
> >Praxis ist, wenn alles klappt und keiner weiss warum.
> >Bei uns sind Theorie und Praxis vereint:
> >nichts klappt und keiner weiss warum!
> >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 20:28:58 -0500
> >From: "Paul Zellmer" <paul AT smcfm.org>
> >To: "'Biblical Hebrew'" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> >Subject: RE: [b-hebrew] Unicode Hebrew fonts, was: Transliteration
Schemes
> >Message-ID: <LOBBLMLBGNECDPBLBJCDMEMFDPAA.paul AT smcfm.org>
> >In-Reply-To: <200301210830.16198.dwashbur AT nyx.net>
> >Content-Type: text/plain;
> > charset="windows-1255"
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
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> >Message: 3
> >
> >In answer to how Peter's attempt at using unicode looks in the digests,
> >here
> >it is:
> >
> >For example: the first word in the Hebrew Bible is =
> >=E1=CC=C0=F8=C5=E0=F9=D1=C4=E9=FA
> >B.:R")$IYT
> >
> >
> >Paul Zellmer
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 14:41:54 +1100
> >From: "Peter Kirk" <peterkirk AT ozemail.com.au>
> >To: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> >Subject: RE: [b-hebrew] The Meaning of brkh
> >Message-ID: <003201c2c1c8$3650f350$687954d2@PeterKirkDell>
> >In-Reply-To: <391B56C096338944BBA74DC93E8AE9B016D421 AT exchange.cbcag.edu>
> >Content-Type: text/plain;
> > charset="Windows-1252"
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >Precedence: list
> >Message: 4
> >
> >Vince, I think you are both right and wrong here. Right that these words
> >should be treated as distinct lexical items with distinct meanings. But
> >wrong in assuming that these are simply homonyms with no etymological
> >connection. There is good reason to understand (along with BDB) the
> >sense BRK "bless" as a secondary sense of BRK "kneel"; also B.:R"KFH
> >"pool, pond" as derived from BRK "bless", in a cultural context in which
> >a pool or pond of water is a very real blessing and evidence of God's
> >bounty. If there is evidence that these come from really separate roots,
> >I have not seen it. The "root fallacy" comes in when exegetes misuse
> >these links to tell us something about the "real" or "original" meanings
> >of the words.
> >
> >Peter Kirk
> >peter.r.kirk AT ntlworld.com
> >http://web.onetel.net.uk/~peterkirk/
> >=A0=20
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >[mailto:b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Medina, Vincent
> >Sent: 22 January 2003 06:56
> >To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >Subject: [b-hebrew] The Meaning of brkh
> >
> >Wes:
> >=A0
> >To attempt to derive the meaning of brk =93to bless=94 from other roots =
> >with
> >the same spelling is to commit the infamous =93root fallacy=94 (the =
> >mistaken
> >assumption that the meaning of words is derived from their roots). The
> >other roots you mention which mean =93spring=94 or =93knee=94 are merely
> >homonyms, i.e. words which are spelled and sound alike but have distinct
> >meanings. These occur in every language. In English the word =93bank=94 =
> >and
> >refer to the land at the edge of a body of water or a financial
> >institution. It would be a mistake to believe that one of these meanings
> >is derived from the other. There are numerous other examples in your
> >Hebrew lexicon of different roots with the same spelling. They should
> >also be treated as distinct lexemes. Hope this helps.
> >=A0
> >Vince
> >=A0
> >Solo Deo Gloria
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 14:41:54 +1100
> >From: "Peter Kirk" <peterkirk AT ozemail.com.au>
> >To: "'Biblical Hebrew'" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> >Subject: RE: [b-hebrew] RE: Transliteration Schemes
> >Message-ID: <003301c2c1c8$37c2d2d0$687954d2@PeterKirkDell>
> >In-Reply-To: <001201c2c159$665e4760$e8870b44 AT no.cox.net>
> >Content-Type: text/plain;
> > charset="us-ascii"
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >Precedence: list
> >Message: 5
> >
> >Thank you, Charles. I appreciate your point about the centrality of the
> >Hebrew script to Jewish culture and history. I would hope that anyone
> >learning Hebrew is also learning to appreciate this culture and history,
> >certainly not to denigrate them or impose other beliefs. I applaud you
> >for fostering this appreciation among non-Jews. And this in itself is a
> >good reason to learn the Hebrew script.
> >
> >Peter Kirk
> >peter.r.kirk AT ntlworld.com
> >http://web.onetel.net.uk/~peterkirk/
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Charles David Isbell [mailto:cisbell AT cox.net]
> > > Sent: 22 January 2003 01:29
> > > To: Peter Kirk; 'Biblical Hebrew'
> > > Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] RE: Transliteration Schemes
> > >
> > > Hi Peter,
> > > I did not take your message as an attack. I thought it humorous to
> >use
> > > the
> > > word elitist when arguing that the alphabet WE find easy should
> >replace
> > > the
> > > alphabet the language itself uses to express itself. I hope you saw
> >my
> > > attempts at a little humor in what I was saying. I do feel strongly
> >that
> > > a
> > > transliteration system is more difficult to learn than the simple
> >alphabet,
> > > and the vowels can be taught easily. a with a macron, with a
> >circumflex,
> > > h
> > > or t with a sublinear dot, forward or backward apostrophe, dh for
> >Dalet or
> > > th for Tav without daghesh, etc., ad naseum. Do you really think
> >these
> > > are
> > > easy for English students?
> > > Here is a trick I use. Any vowel with dots is in the EE, EH, class.
> >If
> > > there is a line, it is in the AH class. If it is over or in the
> >letter,
> > > it
> > > is in the OO, UH class. OK, I save Qibbutz and Hateph Qamatz--hey I
> >have
> > > to
> > > make a living! But you would be surprised how quickly this
> >simplification
> > > works to get students started reading.
> > > Now the te'amim. We do not ignore them. We note their physical shape
> > > [are
> > > you aware that in some traditions a Gabbai gave hand signals to the
> >Ba'al
> > > Qore' to indicate the points?] and show how they are generally
> >indicative
> > > of
> > > connectors [mehaberim] or separators [mafsikim], rather easily
> >ascertained
> > > by the SHAPEs they take. Incidentally, my classes, 90% non-Jewish
> >SING
> > > Jonah by the end of the first twelve weeks, and find that it helps
> >their
> > > learning.
> > > Now I don't want to sound arrogant, but I believe the function of a
> > > teacher
> > > is to demystify the language for his students. If I am not afraid of
> >them,
> > > why should they be? For me, Hebrew is more than merely a language or
> >a
> > > tool
> > > to use for exegesis. It is the conveyor of my culture, the medium of
> > > expression of hope and grief and joy and faith, for thousands of
> >years.
> > > I
> > > pray in it, study in it, think in it, read it as part of the act of
> > > worship.
> > > If the goal of a class is merely to achieve minimal proficiency in
> >order
> > > to
> > > buttress what one already believed before the course began, that goal
> >can
> > > almost never be achieved, I feel. If the goal is to wrestle the demon
> > > grammar into submission and achieve mastery, to enter into and swim in
> > > [i.e., become a part of] the stream of tradition that has flowed
> >through
> > > the
> > > medium of Hebrew since long ago, even when falling short, one is
> >likely to
> > > progress farther than the other way.
> > > Just some thoughts,
> > > Be well,
> > > Charles
> > >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 14:41:54 +1100
> >From: "Peter Kirk" <peterkirk AT ozemail.com.au>
> >To: "'Biblical Hebrew'" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> >Subject: RE: [b-hebrew] Unicode Hebrew fonts, was: Transliteration
Schemes
> >Message-ID: <003701c2c1c8$3a693ab0$687954d2@PeterKirkDell>
> >In-Reply-To: <000801c2c14d$b29ef680$2294d1d8@o3t2j9>
> >Content-Type: text/plain;
> > charset="us-ascii"
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
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> >Precedence: list
> >Message: 6
> >
> >Theresa, I don't know a way of doing exactly what you want. I see you
> >are using an older version of Outlook. At least in my version (2002) it
> >is possible (but tricky) to set a default font and size for all messages
> >which indicate (as mine did) that they are encoded as Hebrew. But this
> >would mean that the Latin script text would also come out larger in such
> >messages. Also, in some fonts the Hebrew letters are relatively larger
> >than the Latin, so try some different fonts and set your default
> >accordingly.
> >
> >Peter Kirk
> >peter.r.kirk AT ntlworld.com
> >http://web.onetel.net.uk/~peterkirk/
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Theresa Roth [mailto:theresaroth AT sympatico.ca]
> > > Sent: 22 January 2003 00:05
> > > To: Peter Kirk; 'Biblical Hebrew'
> > > Subject: RE: [b-hebrew] Unicode Hebrew fonts, was: Transliteration
> >Schemes
> > >
> > > Yes, it appears. However, for my liking, the font is unattractive and
> >too
> > > small
> > > in comparison to the English beside it. This has also proven to be a
> > > problem
> > > when using Bibleworks and pasting something into Word. I always have
> >the
> > > font
> > > height in Hebrew set larger than in English. Is there an automatic way
> >to
> > > instigate this variance when both occur together?
> > >
> > > Theresa Roth
> > >
> > > Theresa Roth
> > > 10998 Longwoods Rd
> > > Delaware ON N0L 1E0
> > > (519) 878-3632
> > >
> > > theresaroth AT sympatico.ca <mailto:theresaroth AT sympatico.ca>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 14:41:54 +1100
> >From: "Peter Kirk" <peterkirk AT ozemail.com.au>
> >To: "'Biblical Hebrew'" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> >Subject: RE: [b-hebrew] Unicode Hebrew fonts, was: Transliteration
Schemes
> >Message-ID: <003c01c2c1c8$417a76c0$687954d2@PeterKirkDell>
> >In-Reply-To: <200301210830.16198.dwashbur AT nyx.net>
> >Content-Type: text/plain;
> > charset="us-ascii"
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >Precedence: list
> >Message: 7
> >
> >Dave, I would be very interested to know the results of your attempts to
> >type Hebrew in Linux, especially if you find an easy way to set this up.
> >
> >Peter Kirk
> >peter.r.kirk AT ntlworld.com
> >http://web.onetel.net.uk/~peterkirk/
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:b-hebrew-
> > > bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Dave Washburn
> > > Sent: 22 January 2003 02:30
> > > To: 'Biblical Hebrew'
> > > Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Unicode Hebrew fonts, was: Transliteration
> >Schemes
> > >
> > > Well, I'm using Linux (Red Hat 8.0) and the Hebrew looks just fine
> >here.
> > > I'm
> > > not sure what it would take to type in it, but it would only take me
> >about
> > > a
> > > day to figure it out.
> > >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 14:41:54 +1100
> >From: "Peter Kirk" <peterkirk AT ozemail.com.au>
> >To: "'Biblical Hebrew'" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> >Subject: RE: [b-hebrew] Unicode Hebrew fonts
> >Message-ID: <003f01c2c1c8$46fcd570$687954d2@PeterKirkDell>
> >In-Reply-To: <NFBBKDEKJBKDMCGCFJNKCECJEKAA.lizfried AT umich.edu>
> >Content-Type: text/plain;
> > charset="us-ascii"
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
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> >Precedence: list
> >Message: 8
> >
> >Liz, I see you are using Microsoft Outlook, 2000 version I think, but I
> >don't know what operating system underneath it. If you have Windows 2000
> >or XP or a Hebrew edition of earlier versions, you can simply install
> >the built-in Hebrew keyboard, or the SIL one using Keyman, and use that
> >directly in Outlook. If you have a western edition of Windows 95/98/ME,
> >your only chance, as far as I know, is to install Keyman and Wordlink
> >from www.tavultesoft.com and the Hebrew keyboard from the new SIL
> >system, and set up Outlook to use Word as its default editor. Even then
> >I don't guarantee the results.
> >
> >Peter Kirk
> >peter.r.kirk AT ntlworld.com
> >http://web.onetel.net.uk/~peterkirk/
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:b-hebrew-
> > > bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Lisbeth S. Fried
> > > Sent: 22 January 2003 02:21
> > > To: 'Biblical Hebrew'
> > > Subject: RE: [b-hebrew] Unicode Hebrew fonts
> > >
> > >
> > > I can read the Hebrew fine,
> > > How do I compose in it?
> > > I have Hebrew fonts on my word processor, how
> > > do I access it for e-mail???
> > > Liz
> > >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 14:41:54 +1100
> >From: "Peter Kirk" <peterkirk AT ozemail.com.au>
> >To: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> >Subject: RE: [b-hebrew] Unicode Hebrew fonts, was: Transliteration
Schemes
> >Message-ID: <004301c2c1c8$4f337eb0$687954d2@PeterKirkDell>
> >In-Reply-To: <12b.20ab5600.2b5e50c3 AT aol.com>
> >Content-Type: multipart/related;
> > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0044_01C2C224.82A3F6B0"
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
> >Precedence: list
> >Message: 9
> >
> >This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> >
> >------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C2C224.82A3F6B0
> >Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
> > boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0045_01C2C224.82A3F6B0"
> >
> >
> >------=_NextPart_001_0045_01C2C224.82A3F6B0
> >Content-Type: text/plain;
> > charset="Windows-1252"
> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >
> >Yes, this is almost certainly the result of your AOL software not
> >properly interpreting the encoding indicator on my e-mail. This was
> >actually =93Content-Type: text/plain;
> >
> > charset=3D"windows-1255"=94, so indicating not Unicode but =
> >the
> >Windows Hebrew encoding =96 which supports vowel points but not
> >cantillations, I think.
> >
> >=20
> >
> >Peter Kirk
> >peter.r.kirk AT ntlworld.com
> > <http://web.onetel.net.uk/~peterkirk/>
> >http://web.onetel.net.uk/~peterkirk/
> > =20
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Polycarp66 AT aol.com [mailto:Polycarp66 AT aol.com]=20
> >Sent: 21 January 2003 18:29
> >To: peterkirk AT ozemail.com.au; b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Unicode Hebrew fonts, was: Transliteration
> >Schemes
> >
> >=20
> >
> >In a message dated 1/21/2003 12:46:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> >peterkirk AT ozemail.com.au writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >For example: the first word in the Hebrew Bible is =
> >=E1=CC=C0=F8=C5=E0=F9=D1=C4=E9=FA
> >B.:R")$IYT.
> >
> >
> >
> >I did a test with formatting the text as Times New Roman (which I use to
> >enter Hebrew in HTML documents) but ended up with ???????. I think it's
> >AOL.
> >
> >gfsomsel
> >
> >
> >------=_NextPart_001_0045_01C2C224.82A3F6B0
> >Content-Type: text/html;
> > charset="Windows-1252"
> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >
> ><html>
> >
> ><head>
> ><META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; =
> >charset=3DWindows-1252">
> >
> >
> ><meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10 (filtered)">
> >
> ><style>
> ><!--
> > /* Font Definitions */
> > @font-face
> > {font-family:SimSun;
> > panose-1:2 1 6 0 3 1 1 1 1 1;}
> >@font-face
> > {font-family:"Palatino Linotype";
> > panose-1:2 4 5 2 5 5 5 3 3 4;}
> >@font-face
> > {font-family:Tahoma;
> > panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
> >@font-face
> > {font-family:"\@SimSun";
> > panose-1:2 1 6 0 3 1 1 1 1 1;}
> > /* Style Definitions */
> > p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
> > {margin:0cm;
> > margin-bottom:.0001pt;
> > font-size:12.0pt;
> > font-family:"Times New Roman";}
> >h1
> > {margin-top:12.0pt;
> > margin-right:0cm;
> > margin-bottom:3.0pt;
> > margin-left:0cm;
> > page-break-after:avoid;
> > font-size:14.0pt;
> > font-family:Arial;
> > font-weight:bold;}
> >h2
> > {margin-top:12.0pt;
> > margin-right:0cm;
> > margin-bottom:3.0pt;
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> ><div class=3DSection1>
> >
> ><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial =
> >FAMILY=3DSANSSERIF><span
> >style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Yes, this is =
> >almost
> >certainly the result of your AOL software not properly interpreting the
> >encoding indicator on my e-mail. This was actually =93Content-Type: =
> >text/plain;</span></font></p>
> >
> ><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> >style=3D'font-size:
> >10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
> >charset=3D&quot;windows-1255&quot;=94,
> >so indicating not Unicode but the Windows Hebrew encoding =96 which =
> >supports
> >vowel points but not cantillations, I think.</span></font></p>
> >
> ><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> >style=3D'font-size:
> >10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>
> >
> ><div>
> >
> ><p><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=3DDE
> >style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>Peter Kirk<br>
> >peter.r.kirk AT ntlworld.com<br>
> ></span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy><span =
> >style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'><a
> >href=3D"http://web.onetel.net.uk/~peterkirk/";><span =
>
>lang=3DDE>http://web.onetel.net.uk/~peterkirk/</span></a></span></font><f=
> >ont
> >size=3D2 color=3Dnavy><span lang=3DDE =
> >style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'><br>
> >&nbsp;</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span lang=3DDE =
> >style=3D'color:navy'> </span></font></p>
> >
> ></div>
> >
> ><div style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm =
> >0cm 4.0pt'>
> >
> ><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US =
> >style=3D'font-size:
> >10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
> ><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Polycarp66 AT aol.com
> >[mailto:Polycarp66 AT aol.com] <br>
> ><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 21 January 2003 =
> >18:29<br>
> ><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
> >peterkirk AT ozemail.com.au;
> >b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org<br>
> ><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [b-hebrew] =
> >Unicode
> >Hebrew fonts, was: Transliteration Schemes</span></font></p>
> >
> ><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
> >style=3D'font-size:
> >12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>
> >
> ><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
> >style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> >font-family:Arial'>In a message dated 1/21/2003 12:46:25 AM Eastern =
> >Standard
> >Time, peterkirk AT ozemail.com.au writes:<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ></span></font></p>
> >
> ><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
> >style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> >font-family:Arial'>For example: the first word in the Hebrew Bible is
> >=E1=CC=C0=F8=C5=E0=F9=D1=C4=E9=FA<br>
> >B.:R&quot;)$IYT.</span></font></p>
> >
> ><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
> >style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> >font-family:Arial'><br>
> ><br>
> >I did a test with formatting the text as Times New Roman (which I use to
=
> >enter
> >Hebrew in HTML documents) but ended up with ???????.&nbsp; I think it's =
> >AOL.<br>
> ><br>
> >gfsomsel</span></font></p>
> >
> ></div>
> >
> ></div>
> >
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> >
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