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  • From: "spyropoulos constansinos" <spyrcon AT otenet.gr>
  • To: <b-greek AT franklin.metalab.unc.edu>, <b-hebrew AT franklin.metalab.unc.edu>
  • Subject: Re: [b-greek] Welcome to the List!
  • Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 12:15:32 -0700




> Dear Mathew,
>
> Thanks for your email.
>
>
>
> The verb which is following means in Modern Greek "sing". The headword
below
> is taken from the BDAG Lexicon used in BIBLEWORKS 5. In koine Greek has
its
> archaic sense (sometimes in current Greek as well..... it is Greek to me,
> too).
>
> In my 15 volumed Greek to Greek Lexicon there are 9 cases of different
> meanings of this verb from all periods of time of the Greek Language. I
wish
> I could translate everything in English. Perhaps one day in the near
future
> it will come out on a CD.
>
> For a nice ancient - classical Greek to Greek lexicon on CD please visit
the
> following website (it has also English pages):
>
> www.magenta.gr
> info AT magenta.gr
>
>
> .
>
>
>
> In Him
>
> Con, from Athens, Greece
>
>
>
> spyrcon AT otenet.gr
>
>
>
>
>
> ya,llw
>
> ya,llw fut. yalw/ (Aeschyl.+; ins, LXX; TestAbr A 20 p. 103, 26f [Stone
p.
> 54]; TestJob 14:2, 4; Jos., Ant. 11, 67; 12, 349; Just.; Mel., P. 80, 588;
> Did.) in our lit., in accordance w. OT usage, to sing songs of praise,
with
> or without instrumental accompaniment, sing, sing praise w. dat. of the
one
> for whom the praise is intended tw/| ovno,mati, sou yalw/ Ro 15:9 (Ps
> 17:50). yallw/ soi B 6:16 (Ps 107:4). tw/| kuri,w| Eph 5:19: in this pass.
a
> second dat. is added th/| kardi,a| u`mw/n in or with your hearts; here y.
is
> found with a;|dw (as Ps 26:6; 32:3; 56:8), and the question arises whether
a
> contrast betw. the two words is intended. The original mng. of y. was
'pluck
> ', 'play' (a stringed instrument); this persisted at least to the time of
> Lucian (cp. Par. 17). In the LXX y. freq. means 'sing', whether to the
> accompaniment of an instrument (Ps 32:2, 97:5 al.) or not, as is usually
the
> case (Ps 7:18; 9:12; 107:4 al.). This focus on singing continued until y.
in
> Mod. Gk. means 'sing' exclusively; cp. ya,lthj=singer, chanter, w. no ref.
> to instrumental accompaniment. Although the NT does not voice opposition
to
> instrumental music, in view of Christian resistance to mystery cults, as
> well as Pharisaic aversion to musical instruments in worship (s. EWerner,
> art. 'Music', IDB 3, 466-69), it is likely that some such sense as make
> melody is best understood in this Eph pass. Those who favor 'play' (e.g.
> L-S-JM; ASouter, Pocket Lexicon, 1920; JMoffatt, transl. 1913) may be
> relying too much on the earliest mng. of ya,llw. y. tw/| pneu,mati and in
> contrast to that y. tw/| noi< sing praise in spiritual ecstasy and in full
> possession of one's mental faculties 1 Cor 14:15. Abs. sing praise Js
5:13.
> WSmith, Musical Aspects of the NT, '62; HSeidel, TRE XXIII 441-46.-DELG.
> M-M. EDNT. TW. Sv.
>
>
> yalmo,j
>
> yalmo,j, ou/, o` (ya,llw; Pind., Aeschyl. et al; ins; PGM 3, 290; LXX;
> TestSol D 1:11; TestJob 14:1; ApcEsdr 7:15 p. 33, 2 Tdf.; Jos., Ant. 6,
214;
> 7, 80; 9, 35; Just.; loanw. in rabb.) in our lit. only song of praise,
psalm
> in accordance w. OT usage.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matthew Miller" <biblicalscribe AT hotmail.com>
> To: <spyrcon AT otenet.gr>
> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 11:16 AM
> Subject: [b-greek] Welcome to the List!
>
>
> > Hi there! Welcome to the list. I am very excited to be able to talk to a
> > native Greek speaker. I have so many questions. My name is Matthew
Miller,
> > and I am an American evangelist. Before I die, my goal is to see Egypt,
> > Greece, Rome, and Jerusalem. I have seen Rome, so I have always dreamed
of
> > seeing Greece. Perhaps one day I will. So, may I ask you one particular
> > Greek question? The verb psallw (to sing?). I understand that this
verb
> > comes from an archaic root meaning, "to pluck the string." But does it
> not
> > merely mean "to sing" in modern Greek? Also, do you know how the verb
was
> > used in koine Greek? Thanks! Sincerely, Matt Miller
> >
> >
> > >From: "spyropoulos constansinos" <spyrcon AT otenet.gr>
> > >Reply-To: "spyropoulos constansinos" <spyrcon AT otenet.gr>
> > >To: Biblical Greek <b-greek AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
> > >CC: "spyropoulos constansinos" <spyrcon AT otenet.gr>
> > >Subject: [b-greek] New member from Athens, Greece
> > >Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 06:55:55 -0700
> > >
> > >Dear list-members:
> > >
> > >I am a new member of your list. I am a Greek native speaker, I live in
> > >Athens, Greece and I would like to share with you any Biblical
question.
> We
> > >live and always learn. My being fluent in both of the original
languages
> of
> > >the Bible enables me to have some experience in them compared to non
> Greek
> > >and non Hebrew speaking people.
> > >
> > > I would welcome any question from all of you but I would like to
inform
> > >you
> > >that my English is not so good as it might appears in spite of
continuous
> > >use of it (mainly in written speech).
> > >
> > > By the way, does anyone of you know if it is available for WINDOWS
2000
> > >or
> > >the XP the following Bible softwares.
> > >
> > >1. The Delitzch's Hebrew New Testament.
> > >
> > >2. The Modern Hebrew New Testament
> > >
> > >3. The Apostolic (Church Fathers
> > >
> > > I know that the above mentioned softwares are available by the
> GrammCord
> > >Institute (Software Company) only for Mac. Not long ago the emailed me
> that
> > >they had the intention to offer it for Windows. Any relevant
information
> > >will be highly appreciated.
> > >
> > > I forgot to say that I am a BibleWorks 5 user (plus HALOT and BDAG3)
as
> > >well as the printed edition of the excellent Lexicons (Hebrew to Hebrew
> > >dictionaries) and Concordances of AVRAAM EVEN SHOSHAN apart from a
great
> > >number of local (Greek) Bible tools mainly in printed form (books).
> > >
> > > I am not a member of the following Greek software company. Just keep
it
> > >in
> > >mind for probable future reference.
> > >
> > >www.magenta.gr
> > >
> > >info AT magenta.gr
> > >
> > >It has English pages. I hope you will find it interesting
> > >
> > >In HIM,
> > >
> > >Spyropoulos Constansinos
> > >Con from Athens, Greece
> > >Spyrcon AT otenet.gr
> > >
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