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  • From: "Dave Washburn" <dwashbur AT nyx.net>
  • To: Biblical Hebrew <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
  • Subject: RE: Elohim plurality
  • Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:49:27 -0700


The only real problem passage I found was his treatment of Isa 6:8,
where he failed to notice the apparent synonymous parallelism
between "whom shall I send?" and "who will go for us?" It seems to
me that the parallelism shoots down the idea that God is talking to
angelic beings or someone else in these clauses.

> I have just read this from http://www.clc.edu/askdr/Archive/elohim.htm.
> Yes, to me this is basically sound, though I would want to be more
> careful re Psalm 45:6.
>
> Peter Kirk
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Schmuel [mailto:schmuel AT bigfoot.com]
> > Sent: 29 January 2002 19:04
> > To: Biblical Hebrew
> > Subject: Elohim plurality
> >
> > Shalom b-Hebrew
> >
> > Schmuel quoting Daniel Segraves..
> > > > Elohim is a masculine plural noun. Eloah, the singular form of
> the
> > >word, > appears 54 times and is also used in reference to both the
> true
> > God
> > >and to > false gods. Eloah is from the Hebrew El, which appears 226
> > times. El
> > > > signifies strength and power. > <snip>
> >
> > Peter Kirk,
> > >Well, 'EL may be a contracted form of 'ELOAH (though hardly vice
> versa)
> > >or otherwise derived from the root 'LH; or it may be derived from the
> > >root 'YL meaning "strength, power", as in 'AYIL "ram", "leader". But
> I
> > >don't see how both of these can be true at the same time. BDB has a
> > >summary of some options (pp.41-42), but a lot of this is pure
> > speculation.
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > -------------------------
> > Hi Peter,
> >
> > Ptting aside the relationship between the forms..
> >
> > Do you find Daniel's Segrave's discussion of Elohim and plurality
> > basically
> > sound..... ?
> >
> > It is the only such fairly complete grammar discussion that I have
> > found on the Net :-)
> >
> > Schmuel AT bigfoot.com
> >
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> >
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Dave Washburn
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-Emerson





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