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- From: Shoshanna Walker <rosewalk AT concentric.net>
- To: Biblical Hebrew <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: Pronunciation of WAW
- Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 08:01:25 -0500
OK - just don't try to figure out G-d's name, whoever is meant to know, knows.
My Yemenite friends in Israel do distinguish between w and v, (and also the aleph and ayin, chet and chaf, etc.) especially the oldest generation. I just visited this past October, and saw everyone, the whole very large extended family, all my friends, plus their new generations of children.
But the other Mizrachim, don't.
Shoshanna
| Please keep in mind that no one knows how to pronounce that name, and no one
| was allowed to pronounce that name except for one person, in one place, once
| a year.
|
| Shoshanna
OK -- but this discussion has now shifted to talking about the consonant waw. As Ian pointed out,
it was originally a "w" sound, and that is born out in ancient transliterations from Akkadian and
Greek. It is only in modern times that the sixth letter of the Hebrew alphabet gained the "v"
sound. This shift is consistent with Ashkenazi pronunciation, which was under continental European
influence in which the "w" consonant is pronounced as a "v" (cf. Wien = "vee-en" = "Vienna").
Ashkenazi pronunciation has prevailed upon modern Hebrew, though most non-Ashkenazi speakers have
retained the "w" sound.
Thus, although the we may not know exactly how to pronounce the tetragrammaton, we know what sound
the consonants made. It's more the case that we do not really know the vowels that were associated
with the name -- hence the ambiguity.
BTW -- I always encourage my students to pronounce waw as "w" because it is more authentic and
easier for learning vocab and avoiding confusion with veth (ie, beth without dagesh). I also
encourage them to pronounce `ayin, and to try to distinguish between kaph & qoph, samekh & sin, tet
& taw.
Best regards,
GEORGE ATHAS
(Sydney, Australia)
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-
Pronunciation of WAW,
George Athas, 01/22/2002
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- RE: Pronunciation of WAW, Trevor & Julie Peterson, 01/22/2002
- Re: Pronunciation of WAW, George Athas, 01/22/2002
- Re: Pronunciation of WAW, Dave Washburn, 01/22/2002
- RE: Pronunciation of WAW, Trevor & Julie Peterson, 01/22/2002
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Pronunciation of WAW,
Randall Buth, 01/23/2002
- Re: Pronunciation of WAW, George Athas, 01/25/2002
- Pronunciation of WAW, Shoshanna Walker, 01/23/2002
- Pronunciation of WAW, Shoshanna Walker, 01/23/2002
- Re: Pronunciation of WAW, Bill Rea, 01/24/2002
- Fw: Pronunciation of WAW, Shoshanna Walker, 01/24/2002
- Re: Pronunciation of WAW, George Athas, 01/25/2002
- Re: Pronunciation of WAW, George Athas, 01/25/2002
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