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  • From: "Kevin W. Woodruff" <cierpke AT prodigy.net>
  • To: "Gary Amirault" <tentmaker AT ktis.net>
  • Cc: b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu
  • Subject: RE: [b-trans] face in Hebrew
  • Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 13:33:16 -0500


Gary:

That's just the way the language developed. Just like in English, we have
trousers (or pants) and scissors.

Kevin


At 04:18 PM 11/9/2001 -0600, you wrote:
>When they say "from an unused noun," I don't understand that. Why have a
>noun if never used? As to Panim, while always used as singular, the form is
>definitely plural then?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kevin W. Woodruff [mailto:cierpke AT prodigy.net]
>Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 3:56 PM
>To: Bible-Translation AT kastanet.org
>Cc: tentmaker AT ktis.net
>Subject: Re: [b-trans] face in Hebrew
>
>
>Gary:
>
>The Hebrew word for face is panim. It only occurs in the plural form whether
>it is talking about God or man. It is understood to be referring to a single
>face.
>
>6440 paniym {paw-neem'} pl. (but always as sing.) of an unused
> noun hn< paneh {paw-neh'} • from 06437; TWOT - 1782a; n m • AV
>- before 1137, face 390, presence 76, because 67, sight 40,
> countenance 30, from 27, person 21, upon 20, of 20, ...me 18, against
> 17, ...him 16, open 13, for 13, toward 9, misc 195; 2109 • 1) face 1a)
>face, faces 1b) presence, person 1c) face (of seraphim or cherubim)
>1d) face (of animals) 1e) face, surface (of ground) 1f) as adv of loc/temp
>1f1) before and behind, toward, in front of, forward, formerly, from
>beforetime, before 1g) with prep 1g1) in front of, before, to the front of,
>in the presence of, in the face of, at the face or front of, from the
> presence of, from before, from before the face of
>
>
>
>Kevin
>
>At 02:45 PM 11/9/2001 -0600, you wrote:
>>I've been told that there is no term "face of God" in Hebrew, that it must
>>be translated FACES (plural). Is this true? please email response to:
>>tentmaker AT ktis.net
>>
>>Thanks, Gary
>>
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>>"Information that is consistent with our pre-existing beliefs is often
>>accepted at face value, whereas evidence that contradicts them is
>critically
>>scrutinized and discounted." Tom Gilovich, a psychologist at Cornell
>>
>>Truth as Heresy
>>"A man may be an heretic in the truth, and if he believes things only
>>because his pastor says so, or the assembly so determines, without knowing
>>other reasons, though his belief be true, yet the very truth he holds
>>becomes his heresy." (F.W. Farrar, History of Interpretation, xvi)
>>
>>Honesty consists of the unwillingness to lie to others; maturity, which is
>>equally hard to attain, consists of the unwillingness to lie to oneself.
>>Sydney J. Harris
>>
>>"It is better to be divided by truth than to be united in error. It is
>>better to speak the truth that hurts and then heals, than falsehood that
>>comforts and then kills. Let me tell you something, friend, it is not love
>>and it is not friendship if we fail to declare the whole counsel of God. It
>>is better to be hated for telling the truth, than to be loved for telling a
>>lie. It is impossible to find anyone in the Bible who was a power for God
>>who did not have enemies and was not hated. It's better to stand alone with
>>the truth, than to be wrong with a multitude. It is better to ultimately
>>succeed with the truth than to temporarily succeed with a lie. (Excerpts
>>from Pastor Adrian Rodgers' talk at the National Religious Broadcasters
>>Convention in 1996)
>>
>>From the cowardice that shrinks from new truth; from the laziness that is
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>>
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>>
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>Kevin W. Woodruff, M. Div.
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>
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Professor of New Testament Greek
Cierpke Memorial Library
Tennessee Temple University/Temple Baptist Seminary
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