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- From: "Peter Kirk" <Peter_Kirk AT sil.org>
- To: "Biblical Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>, "Henry Churchyard" <churchh AT uts.cc.utexas.edu>
- Subject: RE: Two vowels together and Unicode Hebrew
- Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:48:48 +0100
Thank you, Henry. This is very useful, and I will pass it on to my
colleagues.
There are a few other raphe's in the Michigan etc text, or the CCAT text
which I assume is more or less the same (also BHS) e.g. in Psalm 119:99. But
I don't think they co-occur with dagesh outside the Decalogue.
I realise that this is not a meaningful category phonologically. But it is
when you are trying to write software to encode and display the text
correctly.
Peter Kirk
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henry Churchyard [mailto:churchh AT uts.cc.utexas.edu]
> Sent: 25 October 2001 01:22
> To: Biblical Hebrew
> Subject: Re: Two vowels together and Unicode Hebrew
>
>
> The spelling of "Jerusalem" where the _pathah._ seems to be juxtaposed
> directly against _h.ireq_ is actually really a Q're -- implicitly
> based on the spelling Y-R-W-Sh-L-Y-M, as opposed to the K'tibh
> spelling Y-R-W-Sh-L-M. Not quite sure what you're saying about
> _pathah._ furtivum (_g@nubhah_); logically speaking, _pathah._
> furtivum always directly follows the vowel under the preceding
> consonant, but graphically speaking the _pathah._ furtivum is under
> the word-final consonant (just like any other vowel diacritic).
>
> As for _tah.ath_ in Exodus 20:4, the double cantillation in the
> decalogue is accompanied by double pointing in other respects -- for
> example, the few _raphe_ marks which are transcribed in the
> Claremont-Michigan-Westminster BHS e-text version are mostly (all?)
> cases where a consonant receives _dagesh_ under one version of the
> accentuation, but is spirantized (i.e. _raphe_) under the other
> version of the accentuation. Similarly with _mittah.ath_ -- if this
> word receives an _'athnah._ accent, then the first syllable has a long
> _qames._ vowel appropriate to pausal status, while if the word
> receives a lesser accent, then its vowel is unlengthened short
> _pathah._ appropriate to non-pausal status.
>
> In general, "consonant letters with two accompanying vowel diacritic
> symbols" does not really seem to be a natural category or
> instrinsically very significant feature, in and of itself, of the
> Tiberian orthography, as far as I can see...
>
> --
> Henry Churchyard churchh AT crossmyt.com http://www.crossmyt.com/hc/
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Two vowels together and Unicode Hebrew,
Peter Kirk, 10/24/2001
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: Two vowels together and Unicode Hebrew, Henry Churchyard, 10/24/2001
- RE: Two vowels together and Unicode Hebrew, Peter Kirk, 10/25/2001
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