Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Jesse L. Nall" <jnall AT alltel.net>]

I almost never post, but feel a comment should be made.  What has happened
to freedom of speech among intelligent, well meaning, educated people?
Jesse Nall
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Kilmon" <jkilmon AT historian.net>
To: "Biblical Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: Isaiah 7.14 and Matthew


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jan Britten" <janbritten AT yahoo.com>
> To: "Biblical Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 1:42 PM
> Subject: Isaiah 7.14 and Matthew
>
>
> > From: "Jonathan D. safren" <yonsaf AT beitberl.ac.il>
> > Subject: Re: Isaiah 7:14 and Matthew
> >
> > > The word "racial" has been used twice by Ian
> > Hutchesson in two successive
> > > postings concerning the Jewishness/non-Jewishness of
> > Matthew.
> > > Perhaps Ian would like to clarify what he means by
> > "racial"? Is he referring
> > > to some anthropological or other scientific or
> > non-scientific definition?
> > > Y-chromosome studies, perhaps? Clarification,
> > please.
> >
> > and again
> >
> > > Let me point out that in the 1st century CE (and
> > before and afterwards, for
> > > that matter), Jews did not distinguish between their
> > nationality and their
> > > religion.
> >
> > I am sure that in the light of history we would all
> > prefer to avoid the word "racial", or to use it only
> > with great care.
> >
> > The Hebrew Bible however presents the faith of Jews as
> > being a special relationship with God on the basis of
> > common descent from a single forefather - Abraham, and
> > contrasts their position with those not so descended.
> >
> > What word would you choose for this - using the words
> > very carefully, and fully aware of the long record of
> > history, which we all deplore? The modern usage of
> > "national" hardly fits. The modern idea of a "nation"
> > has very little connection with descent or origins.
> > Anyway "nationalism" has an almost equally awful
> > history. Perhaps there are some questions which should
> > not be raised, even among careful and restrained
> > scholars. And yet this issue is at the heart of the
> > Bible.
>
> Socio-ethnic
>
> JK
>
>
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