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  • From: Jay Childs <jchildsjr AT mmcable.com>
  • To: 'Vincent DeCaen' <decaen AT chass.utoronto.ca>, Biblical Hebrew <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
  • Subject: RE: longacre and tagmemics...?
  • Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:25:59 -0600


All right, now you've done it. You sent me to the dictionary. "Tagmemics"
hmm...

Maybe you can start by telling us what you consider to be the smallest
elementary tagmeme for Hebrew. Do tagmemes include parts of words or whole
words only? Do all Semitic languages share a similar tagmemic system? I
am humbly asking these questions from a position of linguistic ignorance.

Toda raba,

Jay Childs

-----Original Message-----
From: Vincent DeCaen
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Biblical Hebrew
Subject: longacre and tagmemics...?

sholom, b-haverim,

last tuesday i taught a class on tagmemics, and on longacre's discourse
grammar. i think longacre puzzles me more now than ever.

(1) despite a tip of the hat, it does not appear to me that longacre is
doing tagmemics in any way: i.e., tagmemics as set forth in Pike (&
Pike)'s basic statements....

(2) he has an agenda of enlisting linguistics as a new methodology against
the bad ol' biblical criticism, especially that really bad source critical
stuff. i find his whole work tendentious...

(3) i find you can't make much sense of his approach without knowing what
he's doing with african languages...., i.e., some of the most obvious
examples of languages with consecutive/sequential systems....

anyone interested in pursuing this discussion along these or related
lines?

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