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- From: Rolf Furuli <furuli AT online.no>
- To: b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu
- Subject: Re: SV: Elohim -- human or divine in Psalm 82?
- Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 15:03:45 +0200
Dear George and Annika,
Jesus, as he is quoted in John 10:34-35, believed that )E:lohim in Psalm 82
referred to man and not a mythological pantheon of gods. Angels are also
called )E:lohim; compare Psalm 8:5-7 and Hebrews 2:6,7. The same was true
at Qumran.
Regards
Rolf
Rolf Furuli
University of Oslo
>Oh, what a coincidence! Just a few hours before this mail arrived I
>happened to read the article by Simon B. Parker: "The Beginning of the
>Reign of God - Psalm 82 as Myth and Liturgy", Revue Bible 102 (1995), pp
>532-559. Parker has, among other things, a very good general exposition on
>the mythological assumption that each nation had its own god, or that each
>god had a nation to which it had been allotted.
>
>Parker has two interesting points concerning Ps 82: First, YHWH is not the
>one presiding the assembly of gods; it is El or Elyon. It is, however,
>YHWH who charges the other gods with maladministration and annonces their
>downfall, and after that he takes over and exercises a righteous rule over
>the world.
>
>Secondly, the narrative section of the psalm (vv 1-7), reflecting a
>Canaanite origine, "explains" in the form of the myth the unrighteousness
>in the world. Nevertheless, YHWH has predicted the downfall of the gods,
>though this is not yet realized. Therefore, in vers 8, the Israelite
>community prays in the form of a liturgical cry to YHWH to exercise his
>rule over the world. In this sense, this psalm is properly Israelite, and
>quite compatible with the strict monotheistic teaching of Second Isaiah.
>
>Annika
>
>----------
>Från: George Athas
>Skickat: den 29 augusti 2000 16:59
>Till: Biblical Hebrew
>Angående: Elohim -- human or divine in Psalm 82?
>
>
>
>| As I understand it, Satan's promise to make them "gods" was as specious
>as all
>| his other words to Eve in the garden. In the BHS, 'e:LoHiYM can be used of
>| human beings, but it nearly always refers to "judges" sitting to judge
>cases
>| by the Law of Moses. The much discussed 'e:LoHiYM of Psalm 82 are a case
>in
>| point. That Psalm is a call to human judges to dispense right judgment:
>not to
>| "gods" in some sort of supernatural pantheon on high. They will die
>like the
>| puny humans that they are (verse 7). Their vain pretension to godlike
>status
>| was due to the Serpent's deception.
>
>The only humans to be called 'gods' in the Hebrew Bible are Moses (and
>even that is just a
>simile) and the king to whom Psalm 45 is addressed. Psalm 82 makes much
>more sense as a sitting of the divine court. Note that "Elohim" takes his
>stand in the counsel of "El" --
>a very direct word meaning "deity". The Psalm ends asking "Elohim" to
>judge or govern the
>earth in place of the other gods (who are barely worthy of that title) and
>so to take
>possession of all the nations. That is, the Psalmist asks for the
>overthrow of all
>national deities who each govern their own national domain because they
>are inept, and
>instead asks for "Elohim" to take the reigns as a single autocratic ruler
>who is able to
>restore order. This certainly has repercussions for human judges, but it
>is the divine
>court which is in view in Psalm 82 -- not the average city gate court.
>
>Best regards,
>GEORGE ATHAS
>- Anglican Chaplaincy, UNSW;
>- Southern Cross College,
>Sydney, Australia
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-
Elohim -- human or divine in Psalm 82?,
George Athas, 08/29/2000
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- SV: Elohim -- human or divine in Psalm 82?, Annika Stacke, 08/31/2000
- Re: SV: Elohim -- human or divine in Psalm 82?, Rolf Furuli, 08/31/2000
- Re: SV: Elohim -- human or divine in Psalm 82?, Ian Hutchesson, 08/31/2000
- Re: SV: Elohim -- human or divine in Psalm 82?, Rolf Furuli, 08/31/2000
- Re: SV: Elohim -- human or divine in Psalm 82?, Ian Hutchesson, 08/31/2000
- RE: SV: Elohim -- human or divine in Psalm 82?, Liz Fried, 08/31/2000
- SV: Elohim -- human or divine in Psalm 82?, Annika Stacke, 08/31/2000
- Re: SV: Elohim -- human or divine in Psalm 82?, barre, 08/31/2000
- Re: Re: SV: Elohim -- human or divine in Psalm 82?, barre, 08/31/2000
- Re: SV: Elohim -- human or divine in Psalm 82?, Jeremy L. Sasser, 08/31/2000
- Elohim -- human or divine in Psalm 82?, Harold R. Holmyard III, 08/31/2000
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