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Re[2]: Diachronic study (was Purpose for discussion)
- From: "Peter Kirk"<peter_kirk AT sil.org>
- To: <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: Re[2]: Diachronic study (was Purpose for discussion)
- Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:12:14 -0500
Actually this is not an argument from silence. We do have a source
which names Belshazzar as the "son" of Nebuchadnezzar. (But where does
it say that he was his immediate successor?) The same source names
Darius the Mede as king of Babylon. This source is of uncertain date
and reliability. But there is no reason to question it if (as here)
other sources do not contradict it. We generally accept, at least
provisionally, other ancient historical sources (e.g. Herodotus,
Caesar) even when they are much later and uncorroborated. In fact here
we have some rather partial (and ambiguous) corroboration. Why can we
not give the same provisional acceptance to our historical source in
this case?
Peter Kirk
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Subject: Re: Diachronic study (was Purpose for discussion)
Author: <mc2499 AT mclink.it> at Internet
Date: 22/02/2000 23:51
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>RF
>The Hebrew and Aramaic word )B ("av") can refer to one's father,
>grandfather, great grandfather etc. Some researchers have claimed that
>Nabonid was married to to Nitocris, the daughter of Nebuchadnezzar. So
>there is no real evidence against the designation "son".
This is of course itself an argument from silence, as are all those you
have put forward on this matter. The text says that Belshazzar was son of
Nebuchadnezzar. The text also shows the immediate successor of
Nebuchadnezzar was Belshazzar. To make all this fit with what we know of
the history, we have to assume that the writer didn't mean that Belshazzar
was sired by Nebuchadnezzar although there is no indication to take "av"
any way other than the literal sense. We have to assume that Nabonidus, who
is not known in the text, was married to the daughter of Nebuchadnezzar. As
there is no evidence to contradict the assumptions necessary to arrive
here, the logic holds sort of, yet I think the relevant literal
understanding of the indications of the text are being put aside for
tendentious reasons and nothing else.
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Re: Diachronic study (was Purpose for discussion)
, (continued)
- Re: Diachronic study (was Purpose for discussion), Rolf Furuli, 02/21/2000
- Re[2]: Diachronic study (was Purpose for discussion), Peter Kirk, 02/21/2000
- Re[2]: Diachronic study (was Purpose for discussion), Peter Kirk, 02/21/2000
- Re[2]: Diachronic study (was Purpose for discussion), Ian Hutchesson, 02/21/2000
- Re[3]: Diachronic study (was Purpose for discussion), Peter Kirk, 02/22/2000
- Re[3]: Diachronic study (was Purpose for discussion), Ian Hutchesson, 02/22/2000
- Re: Diachronic study (was Purpose for discussion), Ian Hutchesson, 02/22/2000
- Re: Diachronic study (was Purpose for discussion), Silver Eiger, 02/23/2000
- RE: Diachronic study (was Purpose for discussion), Niels Peter Lemche, 02/23/2000
- Re[4]: Diachronic study (was Purpose for discussion), Peter Kirk, 02/24/2000
- Re[2]: Diachronic study (was Purpose for discussion), Peter Kirk, 02/24/2000
- Re: Re[4]: Diachronic study (was Purpose for discussion), Jason Hare, 02/24/2000
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