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- From: "Bryan Rocine" <brocine AT earthlink.net>
- To: "Biblical Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: Re: die Flucht ins Prasens, Peter
- Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 16:03:28 -0400
Hi John,
Thanks for your close reading of the Psa 1 text *and* my
post! You wrote:
> Dear Bryan,
>
> You asked,
>
> >
> > How do you like this translation of Psa 1:
> >
> > "Oh the blessednesses of the man who is no walker in the
> > counsel of the wicked ones. In the way of the sinning
ones
> > he is no stander. In the dwelling of the mocking ones
he is
> > no dweller."
> >
> > The point is that the generic (or habitual or gnomic)
sense
> > is also common to the qatal as well as to the English
"-er"
> > word.
> >
>
> One could say:
> (a) he is not a drinker, or
> (b) he doesn't drink
>
> I think (b) implies a teetotaler, but (a) does not, and
that Psa 1:1 calls for a (b)
> type translation, whereas you are giving it an (a). The
habitual doing of good is
> described with the yiqtol in v. 2 (he meditates in the law
day and night). Likewise
> in Psalm 15 the habitual doing of good is described with
yiqtol and participles, but
> like Ps 1:1, the lo' + qatal is used for what he doesn't
do (exception - v. 4 he
> swears to his own injury [qatal] but does not change it
[yiqtol]; perhaps to be
> explained, when he has sworn to his own hurt, he will not
change it).
>
> The opposite or complement of the habitual doing of good
is not the non-habitual doing
> of evil (a possible implication of your translation), but
the complete avoidance of
> evil, and perhaps the past-tense bias of the qatal is used
to accomplish this - he has
> not stood in the path of the sinner, etc. (ever).
>
Well, I appreciate your comments. I like your translation,
"He does not..." in this case. My rather wooden,
idiosyncratic translation practice has done what I had hoped
it would...promote a close reading and discussion. It's
better than translating automatically and shallowly. I will
say that your move to "drinker" does reveal one of the
weaknesses of my translation method, the fact that "-er"
words in English are often common nouns in their own right,
having evolved from the more verbally oriented sense.
"Drinker" is particularly strong in this way. I don't think
"walker," "stander," or "dweller" are quite so completely
"nounish." I think those who use the "-er" translation
method need to be warned that while the habitual sense is
sometimes implied, it is not always present. It's even so
in English. One only needs to commit a crime only to be
called a kidnapper, trespasser, or murderer.
Shalom,
Bryan
B. M. Rocine
Associate Pastor
Living Word Church
6101 Court St. Rd.
Syracuse, NY 13206
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peter_kirk, 06/01/1999
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