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[Peter_Kirk AT SIL.ORG]

Surely, Ian, on your presuppositions the whole of this discussion 
thread is a waste of time because there is no evidence to show that 
Deut 32:7-9 is earlier than the 2nd century BCE, or whatever the date 
is of that tiny scrap of parchment which Dave described. So it seems 
rather odd that you are coming in on one side of this rather than the 
other.

Peter Kirk


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Subject: Re: An Additional Thought on Deut 32:7-9
Author:  mc2499 AT mclink.it at internet
Date:    23/01/1999 07:01


The discussion based on an early usage of the phrase el elyon (as against 
one or the other of the two words) is at best based on guessing, for there 
is no evidence that it was ever used early, though I have indicated that 
there is plenty of evidence to show that it was in use in the second 
century BCE.

I think Lloyd's persistence with his analysis involving el elyon has no 
support at all.


Ian

At 14.17 22/01/99 -0800, Lloyd Barre wrote:
>It seems to me that the controlling image in this passage is that of a 
father giving his sons an inheritance.  Verse 9 explicitly states that 
Yahweh received Jacob as his inheritance.  The preceding verse mentions 
many nations have been created to be an inheritance for others besides 
Yahweh.  Thus, we should find a parallel group for Yahweh to receive this 
other nations.  That would be, reading with the LXX, the sons of El.  This 
would then point to El as being the giver of the inheritances, the father 
of the sons.  Fathers gives sons an inheritance.  Thus, Elyon must be the 
father who gives the inheritances to his sons which makes him the same as 
El.  So,
>El Elyon=the father who creates and gives the inheritance 
>The nations including Jacob=the inheritance itself
>Yahweh and all the other sons of El=the recipients of the inheritance. 
>
>The text also makes the point that the number of nations created and given 
as an inheritance correspond to the number of Elyon's sons.
>
>This argument is advanced on the basis of finding that my interpretation 
of the texts offers one in which the imagery of inheritance is coherent. 
>
>Lloyd Barre


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