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- From: Irene Riegner <iriegner AT concentric.net>
- To: Bryan Rocine <596547 AT ican.net>, b-hebrew <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: Re: Jephthah and his daughter
- Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:37:35 -0400
Dear Bryan
You wrote:
"On the other hand, I will admit to the Biblical narrator's propensity
for
writing a two-sided story. Few characters of Biblical narrative
are
positive role models, positive representations of the "text's moral
viewpoint" from the beginning to the ending of their time on stage.
Yet
the narrator won't let the inconsistencies escape censure or penalty;
in
this way, even bad acts are used as good examples which present
the moral
viewpoint in negative relief. This we know is the Biblical
rule of
narration, but it is violated in the Jephthah episode *if* indeed
Jephthah
killed his daughter. "
If I understand you correctly, you are saying that in biblical narration, the editor will comment if the the actor violated the editor's moral point of view. In the case of Jephthah and his daughter, this does not happen. The editor does not censure Jephthah or bring upon him some kind of calamity---unless we consider that he had no descendants as the implied retribution. Of course if he did not kill her, this would be unnecessary.
I think the issue is : What is this frame? What is the "text's own moral viewpoint?" I see that the frame is limited. It does not encompass all the deuteronomic guidelines for life. The frame is limited to responses to two issues or questions:
a. Why does everyone attack us? (remember this is late 7th
c. or later or even exilic).
The frame provides the lens through which to answer this question.
Israel forgot to worship Yhvh and joined in the worship of the god of her
neighbors. I don't think moral behavior is meant here but only service
to Yhvh---i.e. bringing offerings to Yhvh as opposed to bringing goodies
to other gods. If Yhvh does not receive his due, Yhvh withdraws support
and allows other nations to conquer the tribes. Thus for the editor
to comment on Jephthah's murder of his daughter is beyond the framework
he has established. We can and should, of course, question
the stance of the editor.
Incidentally, the blame is usually placed on "Israel," who is said to have done something offensive to cause Yhvh to withdraw from Israel---not on the action of an individual. Anyway, Jephthah continues to enjoy Yhvh's support as indicated in his victories over the Ephraimites (Chap 12) in internecine fighting suggesting, again, that for the editor, Jephthah's sacrifice was not an issue.
b. Why a monarchy or at least a centralized government?
This issue comes to the fore after Gideon's death when two themes
become prominent: Internecine warfare and legitimate kingship.
Abimelech seizes the throne (as opposed to Gideon who was offered
the throne by the "men" of Israel). The refrain in this part: There
was no king in Israel in those days, every man did as he chose.
In the end, the two issues, a and b, intertwine.
It is interesting to note that the dtr editor is not laying all of the deuteronomic baggage onto Judges. He understand that this period was different from his. There is no critique of home altars or statues as long as these were dedicated to Yhvh. This also points to the narrow limits of the frame within which the dtr. editor is re-shaping these tales.
Bryan, I've been reading your remarks and those of others about verbs and discourse analysis, and I am now paying much more attention to the sequence of verbs. However to help in phrasing I also use the accents, disjunctive and conjunctive, to indicate relationship.
Thanks
irene
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Re: Jephthah and his daughter
, (continued)
- Re: Jephthah and his daughter, Bryan Rocine, 09/14/1998
- Jephthah and his daughter, Ron Rhoades, 09/14/1998
- Jephthah and his daughter, Ron Rhoades, 09/14/1998
- Re: Jephthah and his daughter, Ken Litwak, 09/14/1998
- Re: Jephthah and his daughter, Jonathan D. Safren, 09/14/1998
- Re: Jephthah and his daughter, Ben Crick, 09/15/1998
- Jephthah and his daughter, Camille Bessette, 09/15/1998
- Re: Jephthah and his daughter, Irene Riegner, 09/15/1998
- Re: Jephthah and his daughter, SheMichael, 09/15/1998
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Re: Jephthah and his daughter,
Bryan Rocine, 09/15/1998
- Re: Jephthah and his daughter, Irene Riegner, 09/17/1998
- Re: Jephthah and his daughter, Ita Sheres, 09/15/1998
- Re: Jephthah and his daughter, Stephen Knapp, 09/16/1998
- Re: Jephthah and his daughter, Chana Campos, 09/16/1998
- Re: Jephthah and his daughter, Bryan Rocine, 09/17/1998
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