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- From: Andre Desnitsky <bsruss AT dol.ru>
- To: Peter_Kirk AT sil.org, B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: Re: the chicken(poetry) or the egg(prose)?
- Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 21:50:31 +0400
Peter_Kirk AT sil.org wrote:
>
> I am no expert on this, but perhaps I can illuminate the situation
> from another Middle Eastern language, Azerbaijani.
...
> Maybe this (perhaps apart from the last point) mirrors the
> development of different styles in Hebrew: first conversational (Can
> we find traces of this in conversational exchanges in BH? Do these use
> wayyiqtol etc. in the same way as formal prose?), then poetry, and
> then the formal prose of narrative and stylised speeches.
>
A very interesting example indeed. I think that many languages had a
similar development in which prose and poetry develop separately. I don't
think that traces of conversational Hebrew (Ugaritic, Azerbaijani or any
other language) can be found in the earliest pieces of literature. The
very idea of writing a text exactly in the language people speak on the
streets must have seemed striking and absurd until our century. Even in
this conference we don't try to write something like:
"Hmm, guys, I just wanted... You know...Hmm... We are talking about prose
and poetry, but..."
There is another example of the literature that missed poetry for
centuries - I mean the Old Slavonic. Originally it was a kind of
"translational" literature introduced by St.Cyrill & Methodius in nineth
century. The policy of literal translation led to prosaic versions of
poetic texts, so even centuries later when the original Slavonic works
appeared in abundance only prose was written down. Poetry , i.e. folk
songs, remained oral. Of course this makes no parallel to Hebrew that was
not a "translational" language (though it was influenced by some more
ancient traditions). I think that Azerbaijani must be a better model.
Andre S. Desnitsky, Ph.D.
(Oriental Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences;
Bible Society in Russia)
bsruss AT dol.ru
-
the chicken(poetry) or the egg(prose)?,
Bryan Rocine, 09/03/1998
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: the chicken(poetry) or the egg(prose)?, Paul Zellmer, 09/03/1998
- Re: the chicken(poetry) or the egg(prose)?, Camille Bessette, 09/04/1998
- Re: the chicken(poetry) or the egg(prose)?, Stephen Knapp, 09/04/1998
- Re: the chicken(poetry) or the egg(prose)?, Peter_Kirk, 09/05/1998
- Re: the chicken(poetry) or the egg(prose)?, Rolf Furuli, 09/06/1998
- Re: the chicken(poetry) or the egg(prose)?, Andre Desnitsky, 09/07/1998
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