[permaculture] THE MOVEMENT...EVOLVING

Lee Flier lflier at mindspring.com
Sun Apr 22 15:54:35 EDT 2018

Sounds good Jason. I didn’t realize hate speech was tolerated here. 

> On Apr 22, 2018, at 3:44 PM, Jason Gerhardt <jasongerhardt at gmail.com> wrote:
> This topic has devolved into something I don't want to be apart of. I liked
> Scott's comment. I think I'll pick up the phone and call my friend instead.
> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 2:24 PM, Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Agree wholeheartedly Jason...the box is the Ferris Wheel. Which Mollison
>> himself often referred to. Lawrence its a pity you have to wallow to the
>> depths of personal attack and abuse rather than constructively put an
>> argument or debate together. You wonder why there us little constructive
>> intellectual debate on this site or many others. Perhaps you could show
>> some leadership and eliminate your personal abuse and insults. That could
>> be a good start to build up more comment from the wider membership.
>> What I am alluding to in suggesting the read of PofTEofZ is it gives us
>> another view another perspective in this who;e subject. Rather than keeping
>> our heads in the sand like ostriches who then leave there arses exposed to
>> be shafted .
>> What are say often in other circles is wake the F... up. A good site to
>> browse over that discusses such broader elements is www.wakeupkiwi.com
>> What
>> it does is at least open our thinking to options further afield way outside
>> of the box Jason. There are a few more I could suggest but they me beyond
>> the horizon at this point of time.
>> Personally I am all for wider debate and trying to interpret what possible
>> truths exist rather than morphing to an ostrich or running off to my
>> evangelist.
>> I do look fwd to the ongoing unabated debate, constructively without abuse
>> and personal insults. To keep the door open to all so we can all grow in
>> consciousness and share that with our students....Steve Hart
>> Kia ora Ehoa
>> *Steve Hart*
>> *Ecology Architect*
>> Designer, Teacher, Builder of Ecologically Sustainable Resilient
>> Environments, through Urban Design, Architecture, Landscape Architecture
>> and Systems Ecology.​
>> Skype: tipenemanawa
>> Phone: +64 220 75 62 11
>> The Permaculture International College
>> www.permaculture <http://www.permaculturecollege.eu>education.com
>> https://permaculturecollege.academia.edu/SteveHart
>>> On 23 April 2018 at 04:43, Jason Gerhardt <jasongerhardt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Scott wrote: "Seems

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