[permaculture] [eu-pc-network] Re: Permaculture Economics..a NEW SCHOOL ?

Steve Hart stevenlawrencehart at gmail.com
Tue Feb 14 15:12:46 EST 2017


Hi all..it would be great to get this  conference feedback and any other
similar networks reviews on this subject. Lawrence I'm sure with your
dynamic resourcing skills you could offer this subject some practical
senseful and positive contribution, without the abuse but with a
recognition that we do need to explore all avenues to help put together a
new school of thought and policy. Tim has a library on this subject Donka
has searched fields who else is active ?

Andy..if you could ask around at the conference or even run a brainstorm
workshop on the subject of ethics and philosophy that may bring up some
threads to work on.

All the practical models on the ground will help build the strategic
planning and grassroots evolution.

Maybe a subject focus for an upcoming Permaculture conference to invite the
economic community to focus brainstorm and evolve the entire Strategic Plan
 (Attached) on this subject

Donka...have you developed any student network who is keen on this wider
subject. What would be valuable is a Masters or PhD student to pick up a
research exercise.

My recent offerings was primarily to stimulater the diversity needed in
this subject, without bias. I'm sure there is a lot more from likes of
Amory Lovins, Bill McKibben, Diamond, Hawkin, Cobb etc etc etc

Steve Hart

On 14 February 2017 at 10:41, 'DONKA RADEVA' via
europeanpermaculturenetwork <europeanpermaculturenetwork at googlegroups.com>
wrote:

> Hi Andy, Steve,
>
> I am also interested of some feedback from the event in Malaga this year.
>
> I've seen one of the partners is the University of Malaga, where I should
> have done the end of my PhD with Erasmus, but this opportunity collapsed
> due to personal issues last year. Hope to have next chance to collaborate
> with the University of Malaga ...
>
>
> Keep well,
>
> Donka
>
>
> On Monday, February 13, 2017 4:11 AM, Steve Hart <
> stevenlawrencehart at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi LL..and you wonder why people switch off this site ? Although I can
> handle your abuse and insult, which is personal, many others prefer not to.
>
> IMO all options need to be explored for anyone to get a full grasp of this
> subject. What I suggested was to search through all media and topics of
> this subject and join the dots. There exist a huge array of propaganda to
> keep us locked in to the existing paradigm. How are we to move out of it
> and design a new one. ? The development of a new paradigm in economics is
> one many have been grappling with for over 50 years. Perhaps from British
> Economist, EF Schumacher's  1973, "Small is Beautiful". No one or no group
> has yet succeeded. This is our mission. Join in or simply press delete. Or
> offer constructive input which you are more than capable of. Your offering
> to this group and its wider networks is the wealth of links offered on a
> vast array of subjects. This subject is no different. It does need
> considerable research. Ross Scholes of "Peasants" has evolved networks of
> action on the ground in this subject. Perhaps more members could start
> offering their experiences of models on the ground that form many elements
> to this equation. I know Coreen Brenanan has many too as will many more
> through our networks who are gravitating to "Social Permaculture" and
> include "Commons" and "Cooperatives" in their scope of interest.
>
> If you know of any manuscript(s) that clearly identifies the full
> complexity of this subject please do share it. Rather than wasting your
> energy on pointless abuse and insults which do not even hit the target. My
> skin is thicker than that, with many scars. Perhaps your attention may be
> better served to focus on the subject rather than the person. Although it
> does not phase me for I can see beyond that.
>
> I am not a member of any such pattern of thinking you allude to or been
> swayed by anyone's thinking.  I have the rare ability to be able to think
> for myself. Besides, "Conspiracy" comes from the word conspire which means
> to share breath. Modern dictionaries have altered the meaning of this word
> to suggest it is an act of terrorism. Wrong. It is also recognised as a
> very weak uneducated tool to right off any subject which may have degrees
> of deeper meaning and learning that could upset the status quo, which is
> the paradigm we are wanting to shift from.
>
> "The Four Horsemen" a movie off you tube could be another piece worth
> exploring. Any other links valuable to search through Lawrence ?. Look fwd
> to your positive contributions..Steve Hart
>
> On 13 February 2017 at 13:07, Lawrence London <lfljvenaura at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Perhaps ...a start in realising the history we are part of an which
> evolved
> > the economic paradigm we are wanting to shift begins in this writting
> >
> > http://www.threeworldwars.com/ protocols.htm
> <http://www.threeworldwars.com/protocols.htm>
> >
> > "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion"
> >
> > Other works to illuminate this paradigm are difficult to find and much
> has
> > been written on many varied subjects in the whole subject. But, as
> > mentioned, it helps us move forward if we know where we have come from
> why
> > and how.......Steve Hart
> >
>
> I don't know how you can actively spread conspiracy theories and propaganda
> of this sort with a straight face.
> Have you checked the mirror lately, Steve. I thought you were interested in
> spreading knowledge of permaculture practices and methods,
> not rabid extremist political brainwashing for the melleable. What is to be
> gained from this extremist agenda you appear to be part of.
> Maybe I have figured it out; you have fallen victim to brainwashing by the
> poseur extroadinaire, fascist pig glen atkinson. This whacko conspiracy
> stuff is the same as the spawn of the alt-right movement which was
> successful enough in gaining support and votes to get their candidate
> elected. A similar thing happened in Germany a few decades back, a very
> evil populist movement. Fast forward a few decades and the same variety of
> political slime did the same thing in Argentina and Chile, the victims of
> which were friends and colleagues of mine, of my era, of a global
> movement.. GA admitted that he supported pinochet because the left wing
> movement in Chile was close at hand and threatened the power base of the
> right wing fascists, headed up by Pinochet.
>
> I just hat seeing you fooled so badly by such aggressive evil scum.
>
>
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Kia ora Ehoa

[image: Picture]
*Steve Hart*
*Ecology Architect*
*Designer, Teacher, Builder of Ecologically Sustainable Resilient
Environments, through Urban Design, Architecture, Landscape Architecture
and Systems Ecology.​*
Skype: tipenemanawa
Phone: +64 220 75 62 11

Permaculture Global Design:
www.permacultureglobaldesign.org

The Permaculture International College
www.permaculturecollege.eu
https://permaculturecollege.academia.edu/SteveHart

GAPPS The Global Alliance for Permaculture Partnerships and Solutions.
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