[permaculture] PhD in Permaculture Economics..NEW SCHOOL ?

Steve Hart stevenlawrencehart at gmail.com
Thu Feb 9 20:12:15 EST 2017


Hi Carlos..look forward to your views on this energy. Seems to me the New
Economy Forum may be a good initiative if they can all understand the
beginnings of the usery world and how the global economy is managed by the
Rothschilds and their Bank of Englnad.

In simple terms a new economy policy is what many see is needed however it
must see a total restructurimg of society as we now it at present.
Consumerism and growth need to be reversed as an ideology to build a new
ideology.

Before we can evolve any other desired activity on this planet we must
change the global economic policy from philosophy, ethic, principles to
policy and on to strategy.

Cooperatives and Commons are snippets of good models to build on

I do look forward to the debate and outcomes of such forums.

Steve Hart

On 10 February 2017 at 08:39, Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi guys..here is another initiative that could be linked in some way
>
> http://neweconomyforum.org/manifesto/
>
> Steve Hart
>
> On 9 February 2017 at 10:15, Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim..which idea do you support ? The development formation of a new
>> school ?  I do too, absolutely !
>>
>> However fraught with dangers  of diversion and infiltration it may be, we
>> still need to develop it. As a piece of black humour we could have the very
>> first meeting / conference at a facility in Switzerland called Mont
>> Pelerin. I assume you are familiar with The Mont Pelerin Society" its
>> beginning, evolution  and history ?
>>
>> https://www.montpelerin.org/
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mont_P%C3%A8lerin
>>
>> Or we could invite it in association with IPC13 in India,
>> http://ipcindia2017.org/
>>
>> Hear from you soon to further develop the idea
>>
>> Steve Hart
>>
>> On 3 February 2017 at 20:16, Tim <t.shanks at ymail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Steve,
>>>
>>> Sounds like a very interesting idea which I fully support.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25/01/2017 03:11, Steve Hart wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Donny..an interesting paper which opens the exploration. Perhaps the
>>> question goes back to the development of the world of Economics. Developed
>>> from Rothschilds circa 14th century, pursuit of building the industry of
>>> usery and slavery to maintain usery. Today the entire world are still
>>> slaves to this economic policy which controls every aspect of todays
>>>  world.  We have been conditioned to it through generations. Perhaps 1%
>>> live as the kings of the slavery. It has been specifically designed this
>>> way for that purpose. The only way we will evolve is to redesign the usery
>>> / consumerist / growth / entropic paradigm or policy. It must change to
>>> conservation / fair share / ecological sustainability. Perhaps your "New
>>> Agriculturalists" sub-consciously seek the new paradigm and are very slowly
>>> emerging into it. There is also a warm-fuzzy growth in "Commons" and
>>> "Peasantry" perhaps through similar sub-conscious fervour. None of which
>>> comes from a planned or designed framework or school. This book is one of a
>>> new pattern that begins working in this area
>>>
>>> "Growing A New Economy: Beyond Crisis Capitalism & Environmental
>>> Destruction
>>> ​"​
>>>
>>> Roar Bjonnes and Caroline Hargreaves
>>>
>>> InnerWorld Publications San Germán, Puerto Rico
>>> www.innerworldpublications.com
>>>
>>>
>>> But we still have a long way to go. Perhaps we could open a new school
>>> to evolve it further I'm sure Tim Shanks would support such.
>>>
>>>
>>> Keep me posted on your next layer of papers
>>>
>>>
>>> Warm regards
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve Hart
>>>
>>> On 24 January 2017 at 11:35, DONKA RADEVA <donnybg at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>>
>>>> I'm just at the end, have less than 2 weeks to deliver it in my
>>>> department and too much work now.
>>>> I'm ready with the research results and about to publish some of them
>>>> but still in Bulgarian language. Later on will do this in English.
>>>> I'm attaching one of my articles /in collaboration/ in English,
>>>> unpublished yet, and still on the theoretical part of the research and it
>>>> is around looking for an economic thought.
>>>>
>>>> Will let you know more in details later on, when less hectic around all
>>>> of these. :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Donka
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2017 12:22 AM, Steve Hart <
>>>> stevenlawrencehart at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Donny..howz the PhD going ? what stage are you at ? perhaps time to
>>>> release a few snippets on this network. Do not hesitate to ask for any
>>>> material through this network. Did you find any models you could use ? And
>>>> we await your arrival in NZ..Steve
>>>>
>>>> On 24 January 2017 at 10:57, DONKA RADEVA via permaculture <
>>>> permaculture at lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Amazing project, Steve! Keep hard working and have much luck!
>>>> Best wishes to Martina and kids!
>>>> Donka
>>>>
>>>>     On Monday, January 23, 2017 5:38 AM, Lawrence London <
>>>> lfljvenaura at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:00 PM, Steve Hart <
>>>> stevenlawrencehart at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > 13 acres...river alluvial...just spent 60 hrs on the 14 ton digger
>>>> doing
>>>> > flood retention ponds and swales and flloodways. I'm presently
>>>> looking at a
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> That is a great plan. I hope it all goes together well. I did something
>>>> similar with a large farm tractor and many implements and a medium sized
>>>> skid loader: as you said, retention ponds (3),
>>>> swales/dams/berms/terraces
>>>> and the floodways directed at the ponds; excess rainfall carefully
>>>> channeled into the ponds from wherever on the property.it originates. I
>>>> will post some pix to illustrate the functionality of the overall
>>>> system.
>>>>
>>>> small flood channel that meanders through the property to design a
>>>> > temperate zone chanampa...or real aquaponic system.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Will there be eels in the chinampas? There is a big market for eels in
>>>> Japan.
>>>>
>>>> I would really like to do this also but my soil ios too permeable to
>>>> hold
>>>> water long enough to support the garden component. I am lucky to keep
>>>> water
>>>> in the retention ponds.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Put a few Sth Devon
>>>> > Bulls on to process pasture, manure one  paddock, chooks have started
>>>> White
>>>> > Orpingtons. Have ordered a range of trees for next planting season
>>>> > including 800 apple pear plum and 200 avocado.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Wonderful!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > My 4 yr old daughter
>>>> > conducted her first inpromtu garden tour the other day for a visitor
>>>> and
>>>> > with her 2 yr old sister put together a salad for lunch consisting of
>>>> 40
>>>> > different species.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Now that is living right. Proper salads, the true staff of life! I plan
>>>> on
>>>> a big salad and greens garden this coming Spring
>>>> and hopefully plenty of corn, tomatoes, peppers and onions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Also in the middle of converting an old cow shed /
>>>> > shearing shed into a dwelling..all off grid....a shed it will remain
>>>> for
>>>> > authorities to dwell on...so its all go ...just printed off an AO size
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Right.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > survey plan to draw up the design for presentation purposes.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> I would like to see that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > We will be
>>>> > reincarnating the original Permaculture Institute of NZ soon and may
>>>> seek
>>>> > collaboration with Larry n Scott et al for a branch of their Academy.
>>>> But,
>>>> > there is only 36 hrs in a day....all good..Steve Hart
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> That must be done and the sooner the better. You have my recommendation.
>>>>
>>>> Onward!
>>>>
>>>> LL
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>>
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>>>> Kia ora Ehoa
>>>>
>>>> [image: Picture]
>>>> *Steve Hart*
>>>> *Ecology Architect*
>>>> *Designer, Teacher, Builder of Ecologically Sustainable Resilient
>>>> Environments, through Urban Design, Architecture, Landscape Architecture
>>>> and Systems Ecology.​*
>>>> Skype: tipenemanawa
>>>> Phone: +64 220 75 62 11
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kia ora Ehoa
>>>
>>> [image: Picture]
>>> *Steve Hart*
>>> *Ecology Architect*
>>> *Designer, Teacher, Builder of Ecologically Sustainable Resilient
>>> Environments, through Urban Design, Architecture, Landscape Architecture
>>> and Systems Ecology.​*
>>> Skype: tipenemanawa
>>> Phone: +64 220 75 62 11
>>>
>>> Permaculture Global Design:
>>> www.permacultureglobaldesign.org
>>>
>>> The Permaculture International College
>>> www.permaculturecollege.eu
>>> https://permaculturecollege.academia.edu/SteveHart
>>>
>>> GAPPS The Global Alliance for Permaculture Partnerships and Solutions.
>>> www.permaculturepartnerships.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kia ora Ehoa
>>
>> [image: Picture]
>> *Steve Hart*
>> *Ecology Architect*
>> *Designer, Teacher, Builder of Ecologically Sustainable Resilient
>> Environments, through Urban Design, Architecture, Landscape Architecture
>> and Systems Ecology.​*
>> Skype: tipenemanawa
>> Phone: +64 220 75 62 11
>>
>> Permaculture Global Design:
>> www.permacultureglobaldesign.org
>>
>> The Permaculture International College
>> www.permaculturecollege.eu
>> https://permaculturecollege.academia.edu/SteveHart
>>
>> GAPPS The Global Alliance for Permaculture Partnerships and Solutions.
>> www.permaculturepartnerships.com
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Kia ora Ehoa
>
> [image: Picture]
> *Steve Hart*
> *Ecology Architect*
> *Designer, Teacher, Builder of Ecologically Sustainable Resilient
> Environments, through Urban Design, Architecture, Landscape Architecture
> and Systems Ecology.​*
> Skype: tipenemanawa
> Phone: +64 220 75 62 11
>
> Permaculture Global Design:
> www.permacultureglobaldesign.org
>
> The Permaculture International College
> www.permaculturecollege.eu
> https://permaculturecollege.academia.edu/SteveHart
>
> GAPPS The Global Alliance for Permaculture Partnerships and Solutions.
> www.permaculturepartnerships.com
>
>


-- 
Kia ora Ehoa

[image: Picture]
*Steve Hart*
*Ecology Architect*
*Designer, Teacher, Builder of Ecologically Sustainable Resilient
Environments, through Urban Design, Architecture, Landscape Architecture
and Systems Ecology.​*
Skype: tipenemanawa
Phone: +64 220 75 62 11

Permaculture Global Design:
www.permacultureglobaldesign.org

The Permaculture International College
www.permaculturecollege.eu
https://permaculturecollege.academia.edu/SteveHart

GAPPS The Global Alliance for Permaculture Partnerships and Solutions.
www.permaculturepartnerships.com


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