[permaculture] IPC values ?
heenandoherty at gmail.com
Sun Jun 14 20:39:02 EDT 2015
Curious about your statement,
“...None of the key note speakers are designers, none have any successful design solutions. None are involved in
developing honest design initiatives…”
As I’m one of the keynotes listed I’m gathering that I mustn’t be a designer by your reckoning and that therefore the work that I have done since 1993 across the planet has not involved any design?
That being the case, with all due respect, I think you need to put up or shut up as I will be darned if I am going to accept your assertion that I am not a designer. Furthermore I’d love to see your track record out and exposed for all to see — something that in this space I have been particularly avid at doing without fear or favour.
For the record we are not likely to be attending IPCUK...
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> On 15 Jun 2015, at 02:14, Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart at gmail.com> wrote:
> There is an interesting discussion evolving which needs far wider debate
> and discussion to evolve more meaningful ends for greater value.
> IPC, The International Permaculture Conference has a chequered history but
> also rich diverse and valuable for we know Permaculture has international
> solutions to offer, as well as local.
> Aligned to this is the evolution of energies to move different sectors of
> Permaculture forward positively. Great work is coming out of the PAssocUK
> in these areas.
> However we still need to assess all moves and motives with clarity and
> I have been personally involved in the IPC activity from the beginning and
> remain keen to continue its value and service to the greater community both
> within the fraternity and outside.
> The IPC is our flagship international event. In my opinion it deserves to
> be respected as an international event and present international issues,
> global issues, inviting a global array of presenters, including most of
> all global key note speakers.
> The upcoming IPC in London is our 12th international conference. All
> conferences have been traditionally titled with the number in this case it
> will be IPC12. Tradition has shifted or is it marketing/promotion and
> imaging or is it a diversion of focus to grandise it for personal motives ?
> IPCUK ? When it is not a UK conference, it is an international conference.
> It is in England. It is not the Permaculture conference of England or
> United Kingdom. It is our international conference, with the UK
> Permaculture association being the hosts.
> The whole IPC12 is titled IPCUK it has become an England
> marketing/promotion campaign and totally overloaded with English speakers
> who have little or anything at all to offer the subject at any level let
> alone developing any international Permaculture solutions and debate.
> The promoted Theme of IPC12 is "*Designing* the network we want - for
> people from *around the world* using permaculture in their everyday lives
> and *communities*." So my argument is, where are the designers in the key
> note speakers ? and where is the around the world communities?. Is there
> something missing or have I missed it ? None of the key note speakers are
> designers, none have any successful design solutions. None are involved in
> developing honest design initiatives.
> As mentioned we have a chequered history in these events. There has often
> been debate in whether we need an international structure with an entity to
> assist in the delivery of all things needed. Presently there is none. I do
> applaud PAssocUK for taking the initiative in a strategy to evolve such an
> entity. We need to come on board here and express our opinions but to
> ensure also they are heard and followed through.
> We do not need agendas of self promotion. We need a greater collective
> entity for the whole, for the bigger picture. We know Permaculture has a
> huge amount to offer the worlds issues and problems. We know we have the
> solutions to many if the woes. But we need to act accordingly, as a
> cohesive international entity. We need to feel free to voice our concerns
> and offer solutions.
> I am not sure if IPC12 in London is inviting such a forum for debate and
> workshoping. There is no evidence yet that it is. But we need to develop
> it, stimulate it and maintain it to evolve the models and solutions we know
> we can offer this world.
> I do look forward to the stimuli
> Kia ora
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