[permaculture] IPC values ?
stevenlawrencehart at gmail.com
Sun Jun 14 15:13:44 EDT 2015
Hi Toby..et al..in short the answer is no. There was up till IPC11 in Cuba
an IPC support group but that turned into a linch gang with never any
authority. Although some members of that past support group had done a huge
amount of work in the development of IUPCs there still remains no open
forum for such debate. Another job still in the in tray. Perhaps
deliberations in London will advance it to fruition.
Yes there are many of us that can not realise the budget for such junketts
and prefer to put ones energies into regional or local activity which is
equally as important and should also be highly encouraged. The reality is
that we do have several layers of groupings. Most connect to whichever
grouping they personally respond to and are comfortable with. For me,
personally I enjoy all. But for attendance in London I may have to apply
for assistance from the "Crowdfunding " kitty, this time..its been a very
lean year. Steve Hart
On 15 June 2015 at 06:51, Toby Hemenway <toby at patternliteracy.com> wrote:
> Steve— is there a place where the IPC discussion can be seen on-line, or
> is it via private emails? A link to where it’s happening would be much
> I have never been to an IPC. The huge trave/lodgingl expense ($3000 or
> more) and crazy carbon footprint makes it a non-starter so, And I confess
> that because I usually get paid well to give talks, I’m spoiled. I live
> simply and to pay that much out of my own pocket is a hurdle for me. I
> don’t have an institutional affiliation or grant to pay for it.
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> > On Jun 14, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart at gmail.com>
> > There is an interesting discussion evolving which needs far wider debate
> > and discussion to evolve more meaningful ends for greater value.
> > IPC, The International Permaculture Conference has a chequered history
> > also rich diverse and valuable for we know Permaculture has international
> > solutions to offer, as well as local.
> > Aligned to this is the evolution of energies to move different sectors of
> > Permaculture forward positively. Great work is coming out of the PAssocUK
> > in these areas.
> > However we still need to assess all moves and motives with clarity and
> > honesty.
> > I have been personally involved in the IPC activity from the beginning
> > remain keen to continue its value and service to the greater community
> > within the fraternity and outside.
> > The IPC is our flagship international event. In my opinion it deserves
> > be respected as an international event and present international issues,
> > global issues, inviting a global array of presenters, including most of
> > all global key note speakers.
> > The upcoming IPC in London is our 12th international conference. All
> > conferences have been traditionally titled with the number in this case
> > will be IPC12. Tradition has shifted or is it marketing/promotion and
> > imaging or is it a diversion of focus to grandise it for personal
> motives ?
> > IPCUK ? When it is not a UK conference, it is an international
> > It is in England. It is not the Permaculture conference of England or
> > United Kingdom. It is our international conference, with the UK
> > Permaculture association being the hosts.
> > The whole IPC12 is titled IPCUK it has become an England
> > marketing/promotion campaign and totally overloaded with English speakers
> > who have little or anything at all to offer the subject at any level let
> > alone developing any international Permaculture solutions and debate.
> > The promoted Theme of IPC12 is "*Designing* the network we want - for
> > people from *around the world* using permaculture in their everyday lives
> > and *communities*." So my argument is, where are the designers in the key
> > note speakers ? and where is the around the world communities?. Is there
> > something missing or have I missed it ? None of the key note speakers are
> > designers, none have any successful design solutions. None are involved
> > developing honest design initiatives.
> > As mentioned we have a chequered history in these events. There has often
> > been debate in whether we need an international structure with an entity
> > assist in the delivery of all things needed. Presently there is none. I
> > applaud PAssocUK for taking the initiative in a strategy to evolve such
> > entity. We need to come on board here and express our opinions but to
> > ensure also they are heard and followed through.
> > We do not need agendas of self promotion. We need a greater collective
> > entity for the whole, for the bigger picture. We know Permaculture has a
> > huge amount to offer the worlds issues and problems. We know we have the
> > solutions to many if the woes. But we need to act accordingly, as a
> > cohesive international entity. We need to feel free to voice our concerns
> > and offer solutions.
> > I am not sure if IPC12 in London is inviting such a forum for debate and
> > workshoping. There is no evidence yet that it is. But we need to develop
> > it, stimulate it and maintain it to evolve the models and solutions we
> > we can offer this world.
> > I do look forward to the stimuli
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