[permaculture] American Permaculture Association Standards Board?

Steve Hart stevenlawrencehart at gmail.com
Sat Jul 11 00:43:39 EDT 2015

LL you say "His courses are taken all over the US" is this his online
course that I'm told he stole off someone else ?


On 11 July 2015 at 16:16, Lawrence London <lfljvenaura at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart at gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
> > And so whats your views opinions and insights into everything Geoff
> Lawton?
> His courses are taken all over the US, obscure folks around NC take it, not
> just back to the landers or mod hippies
> or mod peasants like myself. I have visited their site a numbers of times.
> There are the beginnings of good resources there and much I have never seen
> before. Of course it revolves around his commercial packages and marketing
> plan. I hear that his courses are very good but that his permaculture
> designs are not.
> I have not spent much time exploring what they are about but one thing is
> for sure, they sell courses all over the USA, all the way to Durham NC USA.
> They do seem expensive. I have not evaluated their cost benefit aspects.
> They are not going to be affordable by the working class, grassroots, rural
> or urban or much of the middle class. I expect those will wonder if they
> need something like permaculture when it has such a price tag on it. Is PRI
> then going to point them to free, affordable, local, open source
> permaculture resources to get them interested and going down the path, I
> doubt it. I guess it is a competitive world. That's why local natural
> market gardening and farming has been usurped by corporations, governments,
> real estate and development interests and independently wealthy hobby
> farmers who hire Mexicans and "apprentices" to do all the work required to
> get a product to market.
> That's about it.
> --
> Lawrence F. London
> lfljvenaura at gmail.com
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