[permaculture] American Permaculture Association Standards Board?

Steve Hart stevenlawrencehart at gmail.com
Fri Jul 10 17:24:56 EDT 2015

Fair point Jason...but do we just sit back and watch people getting ripped
off and drowning and also disappearing altogether with bitterness and
resent ?

The bottom feeders, mongrels, frauds, liars theives and cheats need be
named at least. They were once called weeds, but we soon realised that a
weed is a plant one has not yet found the true virtue of. I was called one
once and felt quite proud of the title, to then realise that in succession
I was more mycellium.

The disease is widespread amongst many wishing for greater learning and a
more sane way of life looking for solutions and ways out. Many many
potential students take the cheapest easiest option and end up with these
frauds. So how do we repair the damage. Throw therm a lifeline before or
after they jump into shark infested waters ? I don't think this is the
solution at all.

What is the problem ? What is the solution ?

The problem is humanity, or more correctly species man of today's world. We
are being conditioned more and more rapidly into greed and self service. We
have all but lost neighbourhood and community. We will have bottom feeders
if they are allowed. We have allowed this to happen. Is it due to demand ?
I don't think so.

We have so many deficient teachers now with far more deficient and many
cases non-existant curricula. That is the problem. Is there any virtue in
this ?

What is the solution ?

Steve Hart

On 11 July 2015 at 06:24, Jason Gerhardt <jasongerhardt at gmail.com> wrote:

> My take on this situation is the problem is the solution. The course Scott
> and I just ended had two people in it that, in their own words, "got ripped
> off" by he who shall not be named. Ultimately, these groups that cast a big
> net on the internet are just drumming up interest for permaculture. Some
> who encounter them will be happy to stay in the shallow end of the pool
> growing zucchini's from their ears or whatever new "permaculture" technique
> is all the rage. And, some will see something deeper past the breakers, and
> ever curious, may swim out to see what it's like. I try to serve those
> craving the depths. You may have to swim to get to me, but no risk no
> reward. These big internet presences are just funneling more people into
> the depths.
> You could look at something like yoga for a parallel. Every ymca and rec
> center has yoga classes, but you can be sure they aren't reciting the
> upanishads and whatever else it is that real yogis do. Inevitably some
> percentage of people who get exposed to yoga that way decide to crave the
> depths and find a teacher that can offer them that. The same is true with
> permaculture.
> Jason
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