[permaculture] NYT morons at work: Don't Let Your Children Grow Up to Be Farmers - NYTimes.com

Steve Hart stevenlawrencehart at gmail.com
Tue Aug 12 02:50:16 EDT 2014


The Bigger Picture...and World View...to understand this whole dilemma and
the propaganda machine that has been slowly evolving since WWII and now
ramping up significantly obvious by this NYT post we must consider what
machine we are facing. we must also consider where, how and why we have
been locked up in conditioned boxes. As I have said on this listserve
before. Tax is voluntary. There is no law that says we have to pay tax.
There is no law that says we have to belong to any system. There is no law
that says we have to register any thing or have a licence for anything.
This is what we must now start learning in our Invisible Structures. New
Zealand is the basket case for this dilemma that is now being promoted by
NYT. In 1981 the Mont Pelerin Society took over NZ. In 1984, 67 state owned
assets were sold within 6 months to corporates others were corporatised and
sliced up and sold off. This machine is still running. The average age of
farmers in NZ is 66. Farm prices in NZ are so high most are now owned by
bank mortgages or corporates. The true meaning of the word mortgage, from
Blacks law dictionary...grip of death. The corporate design is not to have
younf people moving onto land or becoming traditionally farmers. No they
will become economists/ accountants to the corporates that will run these
farms, by slave labour forces huge machinery and chemical plants. So they
will control the entire worlds food chain. Simple isn't it ? The corporate
machine of TMPS is using NZ as its model, to evolve successful examples all
around the world. It has also moved this model into Australia. Which is a
totally different farming environment but with very similar subsequence and
consequence. The rate of suicide amongst Aust farmers is very very high,
alarmingly....due in large to their mortgage debts beyond their weather and
environmental challenges. So we need to look hard and long and learn more
about the bigger picture and consider designing models of escape, to become
resilient ecologically sustainable communities as great designers that we
apparently are...look, observe but do we see ? before we can extrapolate
and intervene then start to design and build ?...Steve Hart


On 12 August 2014 02:01, Lawrence London <lfljvenaura at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:30 PM, <farmer1 at gasperfarm.com> wrote:
>
> > LL writes:
> > > I guarantee that you can compete with the cheap food system and still
> > make
> > > a decent living.
> >
> > I would never make such a guarantee. I am trying and it isn't working
> very
> > well at all. Very few are able to accomplish this; especially new farmers
> > who don't inherit their land. Far too many rely on off the farm jobs or
> > fraudulent marketing to get by.
> >
> > > Word of mouth is a very valuable marketing tool. On farm economic
> > > diversification would help pay the bills
> > > until food production and marketing methods are streamlined.
> >
> > Word of mouth is valuable but not enough.
> >
> > I'm not even sure what yo mean by economic diversification. Explain.
> >
>
>
> This and other options to be discovered through good site design and
> business plan:
>
> A landowner could be involved in a multiplicity of cottage enterprises
> ranging from ecotourism to crafts to livestock boarding to market
> gardening, orcharding and farming, fiber and hay production, herbs,
> berries, utilizing on farm sales, on farm shop, pick your own, csa, csa
> coop, roadside stand, country restaurant and grocery and more. They sky is
> the limit for site design possibilities related to income generation.
>
>
> > I
> > don't see how it won't have the same slow ramp up that building a
> business
> > does. It just sounds like more poorly paying thing to do I don't have
> time
> > for.
> >
>
> Cottage industry involving crafts and production of artisanal goods can be
> very profitable.
> Marketing opportunities include local sales through markets and stores and
> direct sales on site and by mail order through an online store with
> shopping cart
>
> I have an online store with shopping cart for my shop-made garden hand
> tools business. Other than domain registration costs all of it is free to
> me, domain hosting by Google Sites
> complete with shopping cart offering Visa Paypal and other CCards. Very
> good deal for a small grower and manufacturer.
>
> LL
>
> >
> >
> >
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