[permaculture] NAPC: Scarcity?

Bob Waldrop bob at bobwaldrop.net
Tue Aug 5 17:12:25 EDT 2014

I agree this has been a valuable thread.

In my preevious experience in the convention business, generally you 
develop your budget based on previous experience.  The absolute hardest 
and most knuckle biting conference to present is a new conference, one 
without an established record or constituency.  The knucklebiting is 
because people always wait until the last minute to book their 
attendance and every conference I was ever involved with sold a lot of 
tickets in the last two weeks.  Of course "the last two weeks" is 
useless or nearly so when it comes to program, because your program is 
generally arranged months in advance of the final two weeks before the 

I think crowd sourcing some seed money for the next event, or to fund 
the planning committee on an on-going basis, would be a great idea.

I also think that establishing a permanent organizing group is a better 
idea than handing the convention off to new people in different regions 
each year.  In other words, I'm assuming there will be a conversation at 
the event about the NEXT event.  One of the options is for local 
committees throughout the country to bid for the convention, the other 
is to have a permanent planning committee, which possibly could work 
with local groups.  I'd vote for the permanent planning committee.

Bob Waldrop, Okie City

On 8/5/2014 1:50 PM, Toby Hemenway wrote:
> I'm gaining a lot from this thread and appreciate everyone's conscientious, thoughtful comments. Thomas brings up many good points, and I also want to get to a few of Koreen's. I think we are getting to some solutions here. A few responses:
> On Aug 4, 2014, at 11:27 PM, Thomas Allen <thallen at nwlink.com> wrote:
>>   Do we put on an event with volunteer labor at a very low price so young entrants into permaculture can attend or do we put on the best event possible.
> Where I'm trying to go with this is: it is not either/or. It's possible to put on excellent events with options that low-income people can afford,

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