[permaculture] Cuba & Permaculture

ChildrensPeaceGuild childrenspeaceguild at yahoo.com
Sat Jul 6 11:35:39 EDT 2013

Thanks Kelda & Lawrence for two different takes on the situation in Cuba. It clear that you both have good intentions and the best interests of the Cuban people at heart.

For those that who would like more information on the political environment there I suggest reading reports by Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International. I think anyone planning on traveling there for the IPC should familiarize themselves with the country as much as possible. Best of luck to all attending!!

HRW summary of Cuba:

"Cuba remains the only country in Latin America that represses virtually 
all forms of political dissent. The government of Raúl Castro continues 
to enforce political conformity using short-term detentions, beatings, 
public acts of repudiation, travel restrictions, and forced exile. 
Although the Cuban government released dozens of political prisoners on 
the condition that they leave the country, the government continues to 
sentence dissidents in closed, summary trials. The government has also 
relied increasingly upon arbitrary arrests and short-term detentions to 
restrict the basic rights of its critics, including the right to 
assemble and move freely."

Amnesty's page:

 From: Lawrence London <lfljvenaura at gmail.com>
To: permaculture <permaculture at lists.ibiblio.org> 
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [permaculture] DGR/permaculture response

On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 5:40 PM,  <kelda at riseup.net> wrote:
But they have no freedom of speech! 

It is not a matter of a repressive dictatorship striving to remain in
power and exert total control over its citizens and their activities
(this can be taken two ways but you probably get what I am driving at).

The "lack of freedom" is simply government caution and prevention of a return to foreign
exploitation or worse, invasion and conquest. 

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