[permaculture] Invasion of the flying robots - CNN.com - improved off grid power equipment for the future...

John D'hondt dhondt at eircom.net
Mon Mar 5 15:41:55 EST 2012

If the military is using it the general public may not get to see it or 
benefit from it at all.
I have been trying for months to get my hands on some new Ni-Fe 
(nickel-iron) batteries because they are supposed to be non polluting and 
able to outlast lead-acid many times.
This is an old technology. Invented in Scandinavia I think more than a 
century ago but now only made in China. Then how come that only the military 
and mining companies seem to be able to source them?
I can only buy those batteries directly from the manufacturer in China and 
am stuck upon an import licence that is impossible to get.

Improved off- grid technology would be extremely wellcome at this stage but 
as long as it is not available somewhere nearby to us, the general 
population and at a reasonable price...

> On 3/4/2012 8:59 PM, Bob Waldrop wrote:
>> Imagine what the military can (actualy, IS already) doing with this
>> technology.
> Are they spying on us? Do you mind?
> I thought it newsworthy to Xpost about better battery technology able to
> store adequate electricity for home use between times of sun and/or
> wind. Pretty important as without that you will need to run a stationary
> or portable power supply, i.e a generator.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lawrence London
>> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 7:29 PM
>> To: permaculture
>> Subject: [permaculture] Invasion of the flying robots - CNN.com - 
>> improved
>> off grid power equipment for the future...
>> Invasion of the flying robots - CNN.com
>> http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/04/opinion/ted-kumar-flying-robots/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
>> "But an MIT professor, Donald Sadoway, offered reason to hope that the
>> use of non-carbon-emitting solar and wind power could become much more
>> widespread through a new battery technology he and his students are
>> developing to store power for use at times when the wind stops and the
>> sun sets. Sadoway, whose work has attracted an investment from Bill
>> Gates, said successful use of his "liquid metal battery" could reduce
>> the need for new fossil-fuel burning power plants."
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