[permaculture] corn gluten meal vs monsanto

John & Maia O'Brien johnandmaia at gmail.com
Sun Jan 30 12:13:30 EST 2011

Sorry for the last post, responding to wrong email. Another reason for local
action to shut down the GMO alfalfa travesty is that in a quote in the
excellent film "Nicotine
Everyone who likes to eat needs to see and understand, is that Bayer
and Monsanto announced an recent agreement that all Monsanto GMO corn will
be treated with their new "preferred seed treatment program" which involves
Bayer's imidacloprid, proven to cause "sublethal" behavior changes in
honeybees: they can't navigate properly. They leave the hive, never to
return. This is a hallmark symptom of Colony Collapse Disorder. Hives
abandoned by adult bees, found with only the queen, some brood and newly
hatched bees.

John O'Brien
Olympia, WA

Seek the truly practical material life, but seek it in such a way
that it does not numb you to the spirit that works within it.
Seek the spirit, but not out of spiritual lust or spiritual egoism;
seek it rather because you wish to become selfless in the practical life of
the material world.
Turn to the ancient principle:
"Spirit never without matter, matter never without spirit!"
And say to yourselves:
We will do everything material in the light of the spirit,
and we will seek the light of the spirit in such a way
that it enkindles warmth in us for our practical deeds.
Rudolf Steiner

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Leslie Moyer <unschooler at lrec.org> wrote:

> On Jan 30, 2011, at 8:29 AM, John Fritz wrote:
> >  When applied to soil after tillling and before the crop seed sprouts,
> CGM is a potent herbicide.  It does not kill all the so-called pest plants
> but suppresses enough of them (about 80% IIRC) so that the crop seed has a
> chance to sprout, get a head start, and out compete the "weeds" depriving
> those that do survive of their needed sunlight.
> Corn gluten meal will suppress ALL seed germination--not just the weed
> seed, but the intended crop seed, too, so timing of application has to be
> just right to suppress only the germination of the weed seed.  For this
> reason, it works very well for planting pre-sprouted transplants into a
> pre-treated soil bed.  It's a little trickier when you're direct-seeding as
> conventional farmers would for a large monocrop field.  As I understand it,
> the seed actually germinates, but does not form a root.
> > As a direct market challenge to Monsanto though I see much value in David
> Blume's tactic.
> I can see it now....Monsanto *promoting* CGM as an alternative to
> herbicides.  Corn would, of course, be GMO and treated with Round-Up.  :-/
> --Leslie / NE Oklahoma
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