[permaculture] Peak Ownership (was Intellectual Property)

Tripp Tibbetts slowfoodguy at yahoo.com
Mon Nov 16 14:42:50 EST 2009

I might also toss in the idea that the "more mature" folks in favor of doggedly protecting intellectual property, may have books of their own on their minds (or in the works).  And I'll continue to buy, read and loan every one that I can, as long as I can.  They are more likely landowners as well - potentially the next great wave of discussion for industrial culture.
But to add to Leo's argument, we might also consider the radical reduction in economic scale that is underway.  I wonder just how much longer one will be able to shop for permaculture books at Amazon, or have something rare shipped from Powell's.  The idea of making any appreciable money in a village, or even watershed, economy by selling a book, no matter how paradigm-bending, is itself up for debate.  I already lament all the brilliant books I won't be able to acquire a decade from now.
I understand Paul and Kathleen's POV, and I understand Evan's too.  I think Leo's take on the situation is quite astute.  There must be something more to this.  
Would David Holmgren weigh in on the matter?

The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow.
-Chinese proverb

--- On Mon, 11/16/09, Leo Brodie <leobro at comcast.net> wrote:

From: Leo Brodie <leobro at comcast.net>
Subject: [permaculture] Peak Ownership (was Intellectual Property)
To: permaculture at lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 6:28 PM

I wrote earlier
about how the ownership paradigm started with agriculture, and how the concept
of intellectual property is less than 200 years old. Is it possible that what we're
seeing here is "Peak Ownership?"

Thanks to Scott Pittman's post, we learned how Mollison has
used the proceeds from his book to finance his travels to many third world
countries. That reminds me of a Mollison principle that it's okay to use
oil-based resources to help build infrastructure that will return energy on its
investment. Whereas some people oppose the use of bulldozers, for example, on ethical

The people on this thread who believe that liberated
information benefits everyone are perhaps visionary. I'd wager most of them are
younger generationally. 

Other people on this thread believe that Mollison's rights
should be protected; they support him in maximizing use of the resources
available to him, for the greater good, in this age of Peak Ownership.

If there weren't some validity to both points of view, this thread wouldn't have lasted as long as it has.My own view? "Yes."
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