[permaculture] Fwd: human urine as fertilizer - Steve Read's question re: m/f hormones, etc.

Dick Pierce dickpiercedesigns at gmail.com
Sun Mar 8 16:03:18 EDT 2009

The question:

I was wondering if Carol Steinfeld or others had much/anything to say on the
diff between using male or female derived human urine? There are often
quoted but rarley referenced refenrences by ppeople to hormone content etc
in XX urine esp when  using contraceptive pill. When this is added to the
oestrogenic  homonal input into XY's thru diet/breakdown products of
pesticides/others there's apparently a problem (?) Another quoted thing is a
real or perceived problem with pharmaceuticals  excreted in the urine flow,
perhaps someone has some good references/facts?

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Carol Steinfeld <carol at carol-steinfeld.com>
Date: Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [permaculture] human urine as fertilizer
To: Dick Pierce dickpiercedesigns at gmail.com

...................for your friend in France: Studies show that hormones
appear to disaggregate when in a complex biologically rich system, such as
an ecological wastewater system. What nature put together, nature can take
apart. Will hormones get taken up by plants? I haven't found a study that
shows that. That would be a good study.

There are many ways hormones from humans and animals could get to farmed
food with current practices. If there is concern, one might run their urine
through a planted system or even just a planter filled with rocks, to be
sure there was some biological treatment first.


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