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>   1. dead red wigglers... (lynnann)
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>   3. Re: Water calculations (Benny H)
>   4. Fwd: WOOLWORTHS TAKE-OVER OF MACRO WHOLEFOODS
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> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:58:38 -0500
> From: lynnann <lynnann at newnorth.net>
> Subject: [permaculture] dead red wigglers...
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> John....
>
> Here at my educational garden center, I champion a product for home 
> vermi-composting, Can o' Worms (I keep two going all year long 
> myself)...their recommendation is red wiggler species and when you read 
> about this particular worm, you will find that these worms have one prime 
> directive...eat organic matter....and "cast" out composted organic matter. 
> Many other varieties are "aeration" worms..in that they live below ground 
> and come to the surface for food and then return to their tunnels to eat 
> and "cast".  RW's live above ground.  I would suggest you investigate the 
> species and it will make more sense.
>
> Now....the reason I mentioned they would not survive my winter was both 
> informational for those who live in zones 3 and 2... and because we have 
> no indigenous worms up here in the Northern Highland Forest and so 
> wouldn't want to introduce a species that isn't native to the area that 
> might survive to raise even more upheaval to our fragile under story.  The 
> non-native Canadian nigh crawlers and red worms are already raising havoc 
> up here.
>
> Hope that helps...but definitely check out Will's Growing Power website 
> with the video of him talking about his vermi-composting efforts..love and 
> peace..lynnann
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:38:48 -0700 (PDT)
> From: John Fritz <johnfritz77 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [permaculture] dead red wigglers, was Moldy Compost
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> I guess I am missing something.? Why would I want to use a species that 
> dies back every winter if other more hardy species are available?
> ?
> John Fritz, NW Arkansas.
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> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:15:31 -0500
> From: "NewNorth" <lynnann at newnorth.net>
> Subject: [permaculture] Was "moldy compost"
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> heya all, please do check out Will Allen and Growing Power in Milwaukee, 
> WI..?
>
> He's the compost King and uses vermicomposting (as do I) to create the 
> best growing soil possible.? We use red wigglers, as they are not hardy 
> and die in the winter.? So...obviously, I say add red wigglers..Growing 
> Power sells them and will ship anywhere I believe.
>
> I had the honor to take his composting workshop, taught by him, and he's 
> an amazing fellow.? check him out...love and peace...lynnann
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:30:17 +0200
> From: Darren Doherty <darren at permaculture.biz>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Water calculations
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> G'day,
>
> Thanks for the note...Please don't bother to send me money for this as:
>
> 1. Everything has already been paid for by a client....
> 2. Its part of our expression of Ethic #3
>
> We appreciate the thought however and having checked the page I see this
> hasn't been done so leave it at that.....There are plenty of folks round 
> the
> traps putting a lot more effort into such matters than I do (such as
> LL!)....
>
> All the best,
>
> Darren Doherty
>
>
>>
>> negiliblek wrote:
>> > Thanks Darren Doherty!
>> >
>> > This is an excellent example of using open source methods from the
>> software world in permaculture.
>> >
>> > ..which isn't about something for nothing!
>> >
>> > To give you proper credit, I'll put a sheet in the workbook called
>> Credits, put your name and website along with a link to the original 
>> google
>> spreadsheets.
>> >
>> > I'm also going to send you a $20 USD to show my gratitude and support 
>> > for
>> your spreadsheets.
>> >
>> > If all people behave in this manner, the best information gets out, 
>> > your
>> reputation either increases or decreases by the quality of your work (and
>> hence the amount of work and pay you get increases), and small donations
>> from around the world may add up to a small bundle to tide you over in 
>> slow
>> times.
>> >
>> > Thanks again for your forward thinking, your lack of fear of losing 
>> > money
>> by using open source methods, and promoting a new way of doing business
>> which cannot be monopolized.
>> >
>> > negk
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> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:13:32 +1000
> From: Benny H <makesensi at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Water calculations
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> hi Marjory - have a google using darrens name/spreadsheet/water etc. you
> should'nt have much trouble finding them. i believe they are online as
> Google documents
>
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 4:30 AM, Marjory <forestgarden at gvtc.com> wrote:
>
>> Where are the spreadsheets available?  they sound really good.
>>
>>
>>
>> negiliblek wrote:
>> > Thanks Darren Doherty!
>> >
>> > This is an excellent example of using open source methods from the
>> software world in permaculture.
>> >
>> > ..which isn't about something for nothing!
>> >
>> > To give you proper credit, I'll put a sheet in the workbook called
>> Credits, put your name and website along with a link to the original 
>> google
>> spreadsheets.
>> >
>> > I'm also going to send you a $20 USD to show my gratitude and support 
>> > for
>> your spreadsheets.
>> >
>> > If all people behave in this manner, the best information gets out, 
>> > your
>> reputation either increases or decreases by the quality of your work (and
>> hence the amount of work and pay you get increases), and small donations
>> from around the world may add up to a small bundle to tide you over in 
>> slow
>> times.
>> >
>> > Thanks again for your forward thinking, your lack of fear of losing 
>> > money
>> by using open source methods, and promoting a new way of doing business
>> which cannot be monopolized.
>> >
>> > negk
>> >
>> >
>> >
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> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:02:21 -0700
> From: Permaculture Cooperative <permaculturecoop at gmail.com>
> Subject: [permaculture] Fwd: WOOLWORTHS TAKE-OVER OF MACRO WHOLEFOODS
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> Date: Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:01 AM
> Subject: WOOLWORTHS TAKE-OVER OF MACRO WHOLEFOODS
> To: Permaculture Cooperative <permaculturecoop at gmail.com>
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>
> this is a massive hole in the independent organic grocer market in
> Australia, Macro Foods being bought-out by Woolworths
> -- 
> Nicholas Roberts
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> Date: Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:50 AM
> Subject: dARCY LUNN AT BYRON TUESMACROETC
> To: nicholas at themediasociety.org
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> WOOLWORTHS TAKE-OVER OF MACRO WHOLEFOODS
>>From Victor von der Heyde, of Lane Cove, Sydney
>
> Macro is, or was until recently, a big wholefoods and organic food chain
> with nine stores or sites in Sydney and Melbourne. They were large stores,
> had just organic fruit and veg and organic food cafes as part of the 
> store.
> Sadly Woolworths has bought eight of the nine stores, the stores are 
> closing
> this month (July) and will be reopened by Woolworths under their Thomas 
> Dux
> Grocer brand. It appears it's a move by Woolworths to simply buy out the
> competition. What this means is that all the organic food cafes will be
> closed and the offering of organic fruit and veg will be greatly reduced.
> The Thomas Dux stores have a very small section of organic food and a 
> large
> section of non-organic fruit and veg. For people in many parts of Sydney,
> where the Macro started, there will simply be less on offer in terms of 
> good
> organic fruit and veg.
>
> The sale was said to be in the order of 30 million dollars and was subject
> to approval by the ACCC. The Australian Consumers Association put in a
> submission to the ACCC (see http://www.choice.com.au/files/f134967.pdf)
> saying that the buyout would lead to less consumer choice but the sale was
> still approved.
>
> I practical terms, because Thomas Dux has some organic and lots of
> non-organic, their policy is to put very large stickers on the organic 
> food.
> These stickers hold to the fruit very well but they're hard to get off and
> they leave glue on the fruit which is resistant to ordinary detergent and
> needs to be removed by heavy duty cleaners like Shellite, Dry Cleaning
> Fluid, sticky spot remover or bathroom cleaners.
>
> On another note, in Lane Cove because of Woolworths most recent attempt to
> change its DA to give it a more prominent profile in the shopping 
> precinct,
> it has been headlined in the local paper as "The Fresh Feud People" (see
> http://north-shore-times.whereilive.com.au/news/story/now-it-s-the-fresh-feud-people-tempers-flare-over-woolworths-lane-cove/
> ).
>
>
> Thanks Victor for the info. Other contributors are welcome to send news 
> via
> the website.
> In Canada I believe the fruit stickers have to be edible. That"s a 
> campaign
> we could have!
>
> *
> BUNDANOON BOTTLED WATER BAN *has reached USA and Reuters ? see article on
> http://www.mullumaction.org. Manly in Sydney has filtered water available 
> on
> tap ? it would be great to have this in Mullumbimby and Byron Bay. Who"d
> like to orgainise that campaign?
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> BLUESFEST AT TYAGARAH: *apparently the DA will be going in to council 
> soon.
> If the Bluesfest goes ahead at Tyagarah, Mullumbimby is the closest town 
> and
> will be heavily impacted. This newsletter could be a forum for discussion
> about this event ? please send in your comments via our website. Rumour 
> has
> it that the local papers have been threatened with withdrawal of 
> advertising
> if they comment.
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> MULLUM COMMUNITY GARDENS: G*eoff Lawton and his Permaculture Research
> Institute crew will be at the Mullumbimby Community Garden site on 
> Wednesday
> 15th July, 1pm to peg out contours and site works. All welcome. Jeannette:
> 66844876.
>
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> Canadian Arctic, Latin American, Eastern Africa, Ethiopia. He is now 
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> in Byron tomorrow Tues 14 July 5.30 ? 7 pm for an educational and fun
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> LOCAL FOOD CO*-OP MEETING also tomorrow - at 6.30 pm at 1/1 Acacia St 
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