[permaculture] 1. Re: Why is permaculture more about selling books, DVDs and

paul wheaton paul at richsoil.com
Thu Jul 2 12:40:46 EDT 2009

I am so confused.

I don't even know what people are asking for.  I read the words and it
doesn't make any sense to me.  So I re-read and re-read and I'm still

We seem to have folks that want to provide lots of permaculture info
for free.  So do it!  And isn't that the solution?  Are we then done?

I know that there are some folks that have a bunch of information that
they are trying to sell.  That seems fine too.  Good for them for
making a lovely package, offering it a price that others are willing
to pay.  It sounds like everything worked out great.

Surely nobody is suggesting that somebody else go and do a bunch of
work and not get paid for it - that would be slavery.  I think that if
a person stands up and says "I will give permaculture to the world!"
THAT is really awesome!  But if somebody says "YOU will give
permaculture to the world!" - THAT is seriously messed up.  And it is
so seriously messed up that that cannot be what anybody here is

Therefore, I must not be understanding what the concern is.  Or what
people are suggesting.

Please help me to understand.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Permaculture
Cooperative<permaculturecoop at gmail.com> wrote:
> guys; cant we acknowledge and reconcile the fact that most people cant
> afford the Permaculture pubicqtions AND that most Permaculturalists are
> busting there arses for no money
> we need to go beyond; like 30 years ago
> it doesnt help that the permaculturalist pioneers are a bunch of go it alone
> curmudgeons who would rather hold a grudge for "à years than cooperate
> here is some news; perennial polyculture was invented by poor people; before
> the friggin Permaculture movement
> if you want to become an angry rent seeking old hippy this is exactly the
> formula
> its the capitalist ethic which has destroyed the world and might explain why
> this list/community is so tired and dysfunctional and the FOOD JUSTICE
> community is super active
> grow up
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