[permaculture] Permaculture Knowledge Ecosysterm! very important

Chris Watkins chriswaterguy at appropedia.org
Wed Dec 23 10:42:50 EST 2009


Evan - I agree wholeheartedly:

How *we can and must* open permaculture knowledge up to hundreds languages
> and people all over the world and bring it from the digital dark ages!
>  Publishing on demand will cut out the middle men, save money, and open up
> content!
>  Richard Baraniuk: Goodbye, textbooks; hello, open-source
> learning<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRymi-lFHpE>
> recommended sites working in this direction appropedia.org
>

Yes - and keep watching Appropedia.org, as much more is planned, and it's a
very active community, with a lot of ideas and passion about open knowledge.

Re the comments on languages, one factor that might be relevant is machine
translation, which is getting much better (while still sometimes being wrong
in amusing ways). While I think there will be a place for human translation
for a long time yet, there are some sites already experimenting with
integrating machine translation, and we'll try that on Appropedia in the new
year, as discussed here: Google Translate in the header of
Appropedia?<http://groups.google.com/group/appropedia-community/t/f7a1daced2e25e59>It's
a good backup option for when we don't have the particular page in the
particular language.

Cheers,
Chris




On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 07:37, Udan Farm <udanfarm at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
> I have recently been making a serious effort to keep up with this list, and
> wanted to add a thought about open-source and the future of knowledge.
> I'll admit, at first, I wanted to be annoyed with Evan-I was thinking in
> the "normal" mindset, that copyrights are good, Bill worked hard on that
> manual….
> but I watched the Richard Baraniuk video. It's good.
>
> This is the future. And we are lucky to have Evan in our midst, who is
> thinking about Permaculture, and sharing the knowledge IN THE FUTURE.
>
>
> two things that got me thinking this is a good thing-moving pics and links
> within the document, and cutting out the middleman, a 22$ textbook!
> I used to work in printing, started with a man that still did cut and paste
> and ran a press, and had ink all over him at the end of the day. He was
> older, and never did get into the digital age. But now, most printing is
> digital.  So things DO move forward.
> I do understand that maybe Mr. & Mrs. Mollison don't even want to think
> about digitizing and 100 languages etc. (the older you get the more you'll
> understand.)
> But I think there is a time coming, and a set of people coming, that WILL
> be the ones to do it.
> Evan, in some circles, if you suggest it, you're in charge :)
> On that note, I have another comment, but will send in a separate email.
> Thanks for all the good thoughts and ideas,
> Peace,Isabel Crabtree
>
>
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> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 07:46:53 -0800
> From: Evan Schoepke <thejulianeffect at gmail.com>
> Subject: [permaculture] Permaculture Knowledge Ecosysterm! very
>     important
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> I think one has to see this video if you want to understand *the future of
> permaculture* knowledge tools and content.
> How *we can and must* open permaculture knowledge up to hundreds languages
> and people all over the world and bring it from the digital dark ages!
>  Publishing on demand will cut out the middle men, save money, and open up
> content!
>  Richard Baraniuk: Goodbye, textbooks; hello, open-source
> learning<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRymi-lFHpE>
> recommended sites working in this direction appropedia.org
> *
> *
>
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> -Zen Proverb
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