[permaculture] Large scale farming - sustainable? Profitable?

Lee Flier leeflier at comcast.net
Mon Dec 21 09:35:55 EST 2009

Thanks for pointing that out Larry - I was in fact going to check the 
permies.com site to see if there was anything on this topic.  I have yet 
to post there but it's a great site!

Lawrence F. London, Jr. wrote:
> All of us reading and posting to Lee's excellent new thread (and BTW 
> keep the subject line unchanged and not highjack the discussion) really 
> need to read an identical thread at Paul Wheaton's permies.com.
> Here are the primary URLs for those threads and sample of feedback.
> http://www.permies.com/permaculture-forums/505_0/farm-income/is-permaculture-economically-viable
> Its up to 2 pages of input so far.
> "A lot of the permaculture systems that I've looked at seem to be 
> smaller scale: a garden, a home, a plot of land that somebody runs to 
> feed their family or as a hobby. Many of them have successfully created 
> healthy, sustainable ecosystems, but I haven't seen one yet that is 
> economically successful as well. What examples have you found of larger 
> farms that can pay their mortgage based on the yield from their 
> permaculture establishment? Are there well-known examples?"
> "I'm talking about starting from scratch......is it possible to buy some 
> land, pay the mortgage and the bills and create enough income from it to 
> survive?"
> Top level group: farm income
> http://www.permies.com/permaculture-forums/41.0
> This is well worth reading and participating in. This forum and others 
> there in the ag arena are going places!

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