[permaculture] [earthactivist] Does anyone have info on?

Udan Farm udanfarm at yahoo.com
Wed Dec 16 14:20:34 EST 2009

Mr. Davidzon,I can understand your wish not to share information about your teachers unless they authorize it, but it is not politics to show legitimate teaching credentials if your company is making money off of the word permaculture.
Mollison set up the PDC so
 that those who have received a Permaculture Design Certificate after taking a certificate course are authorized to teach-although MOST teachers now require that if you want to teach that you have some teachers training after your PDC. 
This is the way that the legitimate permaculture teachers maintain the overall quality of the word Permaculture, which they have worked hard to be able to use, legitimately. There are no Permaculture police, only legitimate teachers.
I see no harm in the transparency of your teachers credentials. It may be a ""deliberate marketing tactic" but it is not good permaculture.
Would anyone else like to comment?


--- On Wed, 12/16/09, Vladislav Davidzon <vladislav.davidzon at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Vladislav Davidzon <vladislav.davidzon at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [earthactivist] Does anyone have info on?
To: earthactivist at yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 12:55 PM

Hi there,

Common Circle Education is my company;  we're in our fifth year
of operations and have programs in three
 states;  we just opened
our new school in Berkeley, CA where I am based, offering over
200 hours *every month* of permaculture, nvc, yoga, and meditation.

I have studied with Starhawk, Bill Mollison, Geoff Lawton,
Marshall Rosenberg, Joanna Macy and other really well known
instructors.  My own background combines a very strong
knowledge of marketing and business (I've been starting
companies since I was 16) with a pretty solid grounding
in this work.   I've also spent time doing human rights
work in Palestine/Israel and bring quite an understanding
of the political layer into this work.   The result of all this is
a completely unique company -- we're doing something very
different with tremendous potential resulting.

Our instructors are some of the most well-known folks in this
movement;  but because we cater to really mainstream audiences
my experience has
 been that we simply do not need to provide
more information than what we provide on our website.  I am
also fiercely protective of the relationships I have
developed with our instructors over the last five years --
and tend to simply shy clear of all the politics of this

Providing less information is a very deliberate marketing tactic
on our part for two reasons:  the majority of the people who
sign up for our courses (90%+) never contact us once before
paying for the course on our website;  and the 10% who really
want their hands held, we want to e-mail us so we can then
really follow up with them and get them signed up.

I hope this answers your questions!

Much gratitude and love,


Vladislav Davidzon, CEO
Common Circle Education

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Udan Farm <udanfarm at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know anything about CommonCircle  (commoncircle.com) in
> Berkley?
> They are promoting really expensive courses with no mention of who their
> teachers are or even a phone number, or "about us" page-so it's hard to tell
> who's running this place.
> There has been at least one other group lately promoting PDC's who have NO
> permaculture teacher, and I was just wondering about this group.
> ThanksIsa
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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