[permaculture] 3rd ethic; was: What I hope to achieve from this list ?

Jeff toobeeorknottoobee at gmail.com
Fri Dec 4 14:34:16 EST 2009

Evan, I had the opposite conclusion which is that the 2nd and 3rd ethics 
are only elaborations of the first. That if the first ethic was embodied 
the others would simply fall in line. I also want to express 
appreciation for your inputs on the various threads, I very much think 
that you bring balance and I always "get" what you are saying. You are 
up against generational issues for sure. Wouldn't it be cool to have a 
permaculture textbook that was mostly illustrations with minimal copy 
text so that translation was easy? I love to read but even more I love 
to look at detailed drawings. And of course it would have to be copy 
left. Wouldn't that be a great project? -Jeff

Evan Schoepke wrote:
> I see the 3rd ethic (fair share) being a bit ambiguous but also to me the
> most important because without it there is no way to live up to the first
> two ethics.  It also acts as a safe guard against permaculture being used
> solely for individualistic ends (the so called middle class hobby smear).
>  I think this ethic encourages cooperatives, encourages democracy, and is
> really what sold me into believing in the organization of permaculture
> movement as a whole.  That doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement
> (hence the copyright and digital distribution debates).
> Toby you're an excellent writer because of the thoughtful balanced analysis
> in your essays and your awesome book sits nicely worn on my book shelf (and
> in my netbook).  I wanted to ask you if you had thought about the long
> tail<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Tail>issue and weather you
> would offer Gaia's Garden as cheap sliding scale
> download to set a successful example that might overturn Tagari's reluctance
> to join the digital age.

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