[permaculture] Ten unfortunate assumptions of energy addicts
djtravis at hotmail.com
Sun Oct 26 15:18:08 EDT 2008
If you don't want people sharing their
opinions or observations about Lundberg's articles, then I'd highly
recommend keeping them to yourself. Posting them to a public mailing
list might give people the mistaken idea that they're being encouraged
to communicate ideas of their own.
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> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:41:01 -0400
> From: Keith Johnson <keithdj at mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Ten unfortunate assumptions of energy
> To: permaculture <permaculture at lists.ibiblio.org>
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> Actually he does but you'd have to read more of his site and not just a
> few paragraphs out of context.
> I'm sure Jan would be happy to provide the references to which you refer
> if you were to contact him
> instead of just complaining in public forums.
> "Jan C. Lundberg, a national speaker, writer and publisher, is best
> known for running what was widely considered "the bible of the oil
> industry," Lundberg Survey Inc. In 1979 the firm predicted the
> Second Oil Shock. After 14 years there, he left for-profit work to
> found the nonprofit Sustainable Energy Institute, now Culture
> Change. For almost twenty years he has studied peak oil, energy
> alternatives, and conservation based primarily on grassroots change
> in lifestyle. He has assisted clients interested in the impacts of
> peak oil and climate change on material security and community
> connection. Educated in Europe and on the high seas, he has pursued
> an adventure called a career that is still evolving."
> David Travis wrote:
> >> Ten unfortunate assumptions of energy addicts
> >> Written by Jan Lundberg
> >> Our collective problem as we see the world sputter out of control for
> >> the worse (before it gets better) is largely that so many loud mouths
> >> claim to know what IS happening here. Honest and wise assessments of
> >> what all is really going on are hard to come by, partly because the
> >> corporate media suppress independent voices who may have the background
> >> and objectivity to offer clarity.
> > [snip...]
> > Mr. Lundberg's "background and objectivity" evidently doesn't involve the use of references or sources for any of his claims.
> Keith Johnson
> "Be fruitful and mulch apply."
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