[permaculture] what makes black locust last so long? -a method for removal

Niels Corfield mudguard at gmail.com
Thu Aug 28 05:12:59 EDT 2008

The final solution:

Girdle then inoculate with oyster or other aggressive saprophyte after 
top-growth has died-off. Use high inoculation rate.
Or perhaps those flavonoids will prevent colonisation by the mycelium? 
Be interesting to see what happens.
If the mushroom does establish I wonder if the suckers will be able to 
separate themselves from the mother plant thus remaining uncolonised.

Hmm, worth experimenting with.

Or if that doesn't work, you could buy/hire a chipper and go into 
business with landscape mulches or heat your house with compost piles. I 
bet those suckers are straight and long, perfect for feeding into a 
cheap shredder.


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Toby Hemenway wrote:
> Jay Woods wrote:
>> Are you gardening under the trees and cultivating. That will trigger suckering 
>> from root clipping.
> Jay has named the cause of the "invasive" property of black locust. If 
> we're being more careful with language, black locust is better termed 
> "expansive," since it's merely spreading, like bamboo, into directly 
> adjacent soil, as opposed to "dispersive", which, unlike black locust, 
> means setting seed and flying off into new environments. The word 
> "invasive" is grossly inaccurate, as it puts all the impetus on the 
> species. A species' ability to enter a new environment depends on 
> qualities of that environment (like natural predators, disturbance, 
> unused resources, etc.) more than the qualities of the new species. I 
> like Dave Jacke's term of opportunistic far more than the loaded 
> "invasive." (Dave is sitting next to me right now at the PDC I'm teaching.)
> Black locust puts out suckers if the main trunk is cut or if the roots 
> are cut (disturbance). So a naive attempt to get rid of it by cutting, 
> and then angrily cutting the inevitable suckers in ignorance of the 
> intrinsic qualities of the species, will result in exactly the opposite 
> of the desired result. And in typical hubris (writer returns to soapbox) 
> we then hate the plant instead of holding up a mirror to see the real 
> cause of the problem, and trying to understand the character of what we 
> are dealing with.
> So how do you work with nature instead of against? If you are determined 
> to get rid of this valuable, multi-functional fast sequesterer of 
> carbon, girdle it and wait for it to die before cutting it down. But 
> better yet, because girdling doesn't always work, in an act of 
> ecological aikido, use the shoots as coppice for firewood, browse, 
> wattle-and-daub construction, small fence supports, and a hundred other 
> things.
> Toby
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