[permaculture] spindle cut orchards
paul at richsoil.com
Sat Jun 2 09:53:36 EDT 2007
At this point there is no need for trellises. The branches on the
trees are pretty short and thick.
> I had talked to Tom at Cloud Mountain about clover in the rows for
> nitrogen fixing (he used a creeping red fescue that didn't need much
> mowing). He'd said that the legumes shed a pulse of nitrogen in fall as
> they go dormant, just as he's trying to get his trees to shut down for
> the year. If a warm snap hits after the N-pulse, he'd get a push of
> growth that will burn back when winter hits for real. He's in a pretty
> wild weather area, so I don't know if that holds for all regions.
If there were a dozen different species of legume, including some
perennials, I wonder if that problem would be mitigated.
> This is one of those commercial vs homestead scale issues....
I can see that you can get more apples per acre in a monocrop. I can
see the safety of fewer ladders.
With more diversity, but a primary focus on apples, I wonder if you
would have half the apples, but ten times more food?
I also wonder about the flavor/nutrition of the apple grown this way.
And the sustainability.
> it seems a
> shame to rip out a bunch of mature producing trees just to introduce
> some diversity, unless there's a problem, either existing or imminent.
Apparently she had the orchard pruned properly the year before.
$1300. It took three guys all day. Apparently they were very
professional, very fast and brought a lot of fancy equipment.
This is about 75 trees with the fruit of about 7 full size trees.
> Like all of these decisions, it depends on the context of the
> property...is it a cash crop, or a hobby?
This woman is doing this as a hobby - although if somebody came along
and offered to work it for cash, she would probably be into that.
> Are they all just a couple of
> varieties, or is there a wide diversity of them?
> And how big is the
> orchard? And what's nearby?
Open fields of grass.
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