[permaculture] "certified permaculture designers"
bwaldrop at cox.net
Wed Jul 25 23:29:17 EDT 2007
The protocol for the Barking Frogs online
Permaculture Design Course, which is included in
the preregistration packet linked on this page
and is taught by Dan Hemenway (very distant
relation of Toby I think), says that if you take
the course for "certification", at the end you are
certified as an "entry-level permaculturist".
After 2 years of study and work, I am about to
submit the permaculture design report for my urban
property here in Oklahoma City (which is my design
practicum), and if as a result I am certified, I
am really clear in my own mind that I am an
"apprentice" with much more to learn.
Bob Waldrop, tadpole in training
----- Original Message -----
From: "Toby Hemenway" <toby at patternliteracy.com>
> A note about the use of terms. Taking a 72-hour
> design course does not
> make you a "certified permaculture designer."
> The original certificates
> from Mollison say, in some cases, that the
> holder "has successfully
> completed a permaculture design course" and
> other certificates from him
> say "is a permaculture design trainee." Somehow
> in later iterations by
> other teachers, usually a few generations
> removed from Bill, people got
> the idea that a PDC made you a professional,
> certified designer.
> Seventy-two hours is the equivalent of two
> college classes but with no
> homework, which is not enough to make anyone a
> designer. Bill has been
> very firm about this, and most of the old-school
> teachers feel the same
> way. I believe it's generally thought that
> getting a diploma from the
> Permaculture Institute after two years of study
> under a mentor is what
> is required to call yourself a certified
> designer (right, Scott or Robyn
> or any of you long-time Pc teachers?). It's
> unfortunate that this
> "resume bloat" has led to so many people
> thinking the PDC makes them a
> certified designer, instead of a design trainee.
> I'd be happy to hear anyone's thoughts, pro or
> con, about this.
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