jostaberries, and pole apples

joann t calabrese jocal23 at
Sat Mar 20 14:59:00 EST 1999

I am applying permaculture principles to a city  lot which includes:
grapes, raspberries, kiwi, asparagus, lots of medicinal herbs and a
vegetable garden.
I'd like to know if anyone has experience jostaberries or "pole apples"
 On the jostaberries: Are they shade tolerant? What is their growth
habit?  Bush or cane?  Are they sweet?  They are listed as a permaculture
plant, or easy mainentance plant on some plant lists, but I would like
some idea of what they are like before oredering.
On the "pole apples":  I found these in Gurney's seed catalog.....they
certainly look like they would work for a small yard, but does anyone
have any experience with these??
Thaks so much!!!  Joann Calabrese, ERie, PA........jocal23 at

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