design courses

Jeff Jacobsen jjj at
Thu Nov 9 13:43:10 EST 1995

Thanks Carmela,

Now I need some time to read the info.  Your definition seems to boil 
down to a systems apporach.  Look at the whole picture and all the 
interactions before messing with it.  Life is not just a sequence of 
cause and effects.  But before I say much more, I'm going to take some 
time this weekend and read your stuff a bit closer.  What I really trying 
to do is zero in on what is unique about permaculture and what 
ideas/patterns are common to other systems of thought. I suspect many of 
us take a  permaculture approach without calling it that.

BTW  The correct URL for Carmela's web page is

Jeff Jacobsen		jjj at  

On Thu, 9 Nov 1995, carmela leone wrote:

> Jeff,
> If I may take this opportunity to shamelessly 'plug' my Home Page...
> http://www.ozonline.permaculture/index.html
> ...look at my Design project - using David Holmgren's principles, my project
> is titled 'Permaculture Principles applied towards developing a sustainable
> family unit'. 
> If you look at my approach you'll see that I use observation of patterns as
> a basis for my design. 
> Carmela
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> At 03:04 PM 11/8/95 -0800, Jeff Jacobsen wrote:
> >Along these same lines, could someone review the basic principles upon 
> >which permaculture is based. If I recall correctly these principles are 
> >applicable to areas other than agriculuture.  Or, another take might be 
> >to try to abstract some of the recurring patterns that are essential to 
> >permaculture.  
> >
> >

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