From wim.schreurs at vub.ac.be Fri Dec 2 09:28:37 2005 From: wim.schreurs at vub.ac.be (wim schreurs) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 15:28:37 +0100 Subject: [Cc-be] Cc-be Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c5f74c$af719980$cf42b886@vub.ac.be> Hello, I would like to remind you again to the following article of the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union (O.J.C. 364, 18.12.2000). Article 17. "Right to property", sub 2 : "Intellectual property shall be protected." Kind regards, Wim Schreurs -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: cc-be-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:cc-be-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org]Namens cc-be-request at lists.ibiblio.org Verzonden: woensdag 30 november 2005 18:00 Aan: cc-be at lists.ibiblio.org Onderwerp: Cc-be Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5 Send Cc-be mailing list submissions to cc-be at lists.ibiblio.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-be or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cc-be-request at lists.ibiblio.org You can reach the person managing the list at cc-be-owner at lists.ibiblio.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Cc-be digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Fwd: [Cc-icommons] iCommons - the story continues... (Yong Liu) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:00:37 +0800 From: Yong Liu Subject: [Cc-be] Fwd: [Cc-icommons] iCommons - the story continues... To: Creative-Commons-China at googlegroups.com Cc: cc-ar at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-nr at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-tw at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-jo at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-ph at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-jp at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-cl at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-nz at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-mex at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-latam at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-pe at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-se at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-be at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-es at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-dk at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-hu at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-br at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-il at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-ca at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-cat at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-fr at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-za at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-ie at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-co at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-au at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-nl at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-pl at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-my at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-in at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-ng at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-cn at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-africa at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-ch at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-mx at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-at at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-fi at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-de at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-uk at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-mt at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-hr at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-kr at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-it at lists.ibiblio.org Message-ID: <96a293ee0511221900r2072e257m at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear All, At the end of last week I sent out an introductory email about the future of Creative Commons International and iCommons. I promised that more details would be coming this week. And here it is. This will not answer all your questions but I am hopeful that it will begin to answer the question of "what is iCommons?". Christiane Asschenfeldt (Executive Director of Creative Commons International) intends to send a similar email re-affirming the ongoing role and function of Creative Commons International and together they should provide an overall picture of the international community. For those of you that may not have had a chance to read my earlier email, I have included it at the bottom of this email for easy reference. ##iCommons Information - Location: International with an office in London, UK Staff supported by Creative Commons: Paula Le Dieu (Director, iCommons) Who else is iCommons?: Open to anyone that chooses to participate. This of course includes everyone that helps with the national porting projects but also authors, artists, creators, producers, users, campaigners, activists, the floss community - in fact, anyone interested in furthering the health of the commons. Funded by: Creative Commons provides initial funding for a fulltime staff role & London office costs. Long term, iCommons should aim to be financially independent of Creative Commons. Initial functions: 1. To provide an online "home" for the international voice of the Commons - eg. www.icommons.org/news 2. To provide an online "home" for a gateway to best practice Commons projects around the world - eg. www.icommons.org/projects 3. To provide an identity to unify and promote Commons campaigns and activities around the world - eg. www.icommons.org/campaigns 4. To provide a gateway that connects volunteers with Commons projects and campaigns - eg. www.icommons.org/commoners 5. To provide a co-ordination and facilitation role for the formation of international project and campaign consortiums that benefit the Commons. ##iCommons and Creative Commons and Creative Commons International... Creative Commons will soon celebrate another birthday. The CC staff are always thinking about better ways to deliver their goals and I will continue to use my position as a CC funded staff member to promote and facilitate the inclusion of the iCommoners' perspective in everything they do. Creative Commons International, the work that Christiane and many of you have undertaken to port and maintain licenses continues to go from strength to strength. The legal porting process is well developed and continues to provide guidance for those of you either porting or maintaining licenses. iCommons and Creative Commons International will work closely together in recognition that many of you will be actively participating in both the legal projects and iCommons. And finally, iCommons is born today! As of the end of last week, the charitable organisation incorporated in England is legally called iCommons. The first challenge is to create a website that provides a home for the realisation of the functions I have outlined above. Just as many of you worked towards the creation of a healthy commons by contributing to the license porting project, I am hopeful that many of you will want to continue to inspire and facilitate the use of those licenses and other tools and projects that grow the commons by contributing to, and benefiting from iCommons. Over the next few weeks I will be asking for participation in the first iCommons projects. Count down has begun :) Regards Paula ps. please feel free to send onto country lists. --------------- sent: 17th November 2005 subject: Creative Commons and iCommons Dear All, Recently Creative Commons celebrated the 24th launch of a Creative Commons local jurisdiction license (congratulations Slovenia!). With at least 70 local jurisdiction licenses expected over the next couple of years and millions of CC licensed objects, it is clear that Creative Commons is an extraordinary international phenomenon. However, as we started to discuss at the iSummit in June, this rate of growth brings with it the need to re-think the organisational structure and to think carefully about how Creative Commons presents itself to an international public. As we've grown, we've come to recognize that the diversity and energy of the communities that have been started under the iCommons project need their own institutional structure. That institution needs to support more than the licensing project that has been the core mission of Creative Commons. We have therefore decided to migrate the iCommons project to its own separate legal entity. That entity will be called "iCommons"; it will have its own board, and is now incorporated with nonprofit status in the UK. I will serve as the executive director of this new entity. For now, iCommons continues as a subsidiary of Creative Commons, and will be supported by Creative Commons. But eventually, depending upon how iCommons grows, it could become a wholly separate entity, devoted to spreading CC licenses, as well as addressing the wide range of issues that have the attention of our iCommons partners. Whether, and how, iCommons develops will depend upon what you decide. Creative Commons will continue to work to launch Creative Commons licenses within legal jurisdictions around the world. Christiane Asschenfeldt will direct that project from Berlin with the help of a new assistant, Eva Lutterbuese (eva at creativecommons.org ), as well as with Tessi Rieber, who will continue to work for the Berlin office as a student intern for two days per week. It has been Christiane's work so far that made the the international movement of Creative Commons possible. But if we are to keep the high quality that the licensing project requires, it is essential that Creative Commons keeps strong direction over the licensing project, as distinct from the other great work of the iCommons community. Therefore, in the future, new countries entering into the porting project will work with Christiane to launch licenses within their jurisdiction. Those licenses will continue to be maintained both locally and through Creative Commons. Then, depending upon the interest within the country, community members can then join iCommons. We expect iCommons to be a home for many "free culture" projects internationally. But the core will always be you. Christiane's project to internationalize the work of Creative Commons will be named "Creative Commons International." That project will continue to be supported within Creative Commons. Over the next months, we will be adding a great deal more detail to this new structuring and in doing so we hope we will address many of the questions that are raised by this first email. However it is important to note that while the world of Creative Commons International will be very defined in keeping with the renewed focus on the licenses, the world of iCommons will be far more open. Start to think about how you think you would like to contribute to iCommons, how it should be structured as a volunteer organisation and about the kinds of activities it should be engaged in. Remember, Creative Commons is supporting iCommons initially but the responsibility for it in the long term resides with the community. What do you want to achieve and how can we structure it to ensure that you succeed? There are lots of questions that we will be answering in a second email that is coming on Monday, so stay tuned. Paula Le Dieu Executive Director iCommons paula at creativecommons.org _______________________________________________ Cc-icommons mailing list Cc-icommons at lists.ibiblio.org http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-icommons -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-be/attachments/20051123/118723a9/attac hment-0001.htm ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Cc-be mailing list Cc-be at lists.ibiblio.org http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-be End of Cc-be Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5 ************************************ From wim.schreurs at vub.ac.be Fri Dec 2 11:45:49 2005 From: wim.schreurs at vub.ac.be (wim schreurs) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 17:45:49 +0100 Subject: [Cc-be] iCommons and "right to property" In-Reply-To: <43906BB9.1070407@law.kuleuven.be> Message-ID: <000701c5f75f$da191d80$cf42b886@vub.ac.be> Hi, I absolutely support the cc initiative. Maybe the message is misplaced here, because it might sound as if article 17 conflicts with creative commons. On the contrary, creative commons makes the concept of intellectual property rights practical and thus possible in the information society. I just found it worth mentioning that the right to intellectual property is part of the chapter of fundamental rights of the european union. Kind regards Wim Schreurs -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Hannelore Dekeyser [mailto:hannelore.dekeyser at law.kuleuven.be] Verzonden: vrijdag 2 december 2005 16:44 Aan: cc-be at lists.ibiblio.org CC: wim.schreurs at vub.ac.be Onderwerp: Re: [Cc-be] iCommons and "right to property" Hello, To be very frank, I find your message rather puzzling. I don't see any contradiction between the iCommons initiative and the right to property. iCommons is not a lobby to abolish intellectual property right law, or even to limit its scope. It offers authors a different way to make use of their property rights in their works, particularly by making a standardized licencing scheme available. Granted, this licence is very generous in its terms. The right to property enshrined in the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union is by no means absolute. Moreover, the same Charter also guaranties freedom of expression, which includes the right to receive and impart ideas. I'm curious to know what you find disturbing about the iCommons initiative. Kind regards, Hannelore The Charter homepage: http://www.europarl.eu.int/charter/default_en.htm wim schreurs wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to remind you again to the following article of the Charter of > Fundamental Rights of the European Union (O.J.C. 364, 18.12.2000). > Article 17. "Right to property", sub 2 : "Intellectual property shall be > protected." > > Kind regards, > Wim Schreurs > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: cc-be-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org > [mailto:cc-be-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org]Namens > cc-be-request at lists.ibiblio.org > Verzonden: woensdag 30 november 2005 18:00 > Aan: cc-be at lists.ibiblio.org > Onderwerp: Cc-be Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5 > > > Send Cc-be mailing list submissions to > cc-be at lists.ibiblio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-be > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cc-be-request at lists.ibiblio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cc-be-owner at lists.ibiblio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Cc-be digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Fwd: [Cc-icommons] iCommons - the story continues... (Yong Liu) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:00:37 +0800 > From: Yong Liu > Subject: [Cc-be] Fwd: [Cc-icommons] iCommons - the story continues... > To: Creative-Commons-China at googlegroups.com > Cc: cc-ar at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-nr at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-tw at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-jo at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-ph at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-jp at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-cl at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-nz at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-mex at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-latam at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-pe at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-se at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-be at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-es at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-dk at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-hu at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-br at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-il at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-ca at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-cat at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-fr at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-za at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-ie at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-co at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-au at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-nl at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-pl at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-my at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-in at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-ng at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-cn at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-africa at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-ch at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-mx at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-at at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-fi at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-de at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-uk at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-mt at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-hr at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-kr at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-it at lists.ibiblio.org > Message-ID: <96a293ee0511221900r2072e257m at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dear All, > > At the end of last week I sent out an introductory email about the > future of Creative Commons International and iCommons. I promised > that more details would be coming this week. And here it is. This > will not answer all your questions but I am hopeful that it will > begin to answer the question of "what is iCommons?". Christiane > Asschenfeldt (Executive Director of Creative Commons International) > intends to send a similar email re-affirming the ongoing role and > function of Creative Commons International and together they should > provide an overall picture of the international community. For those > of you that may not have had a chance to read my earlier email, I > have included it at the bottom of this email for easy reference. > > ##iCommons Information - > Location: International with an office in London, UK > Staff supported by Creative Commons: Paula Le Dieu (Director, iCommons) > Who else is iCommons?: Open to anyone that chooses to participate. > This of course includes everyone that helps with the national porting > projects but also authors, artists, creators, producers, users, > campaigners, activists, the floss community - in fact, anyone > interested in furthering the health of the commons. > Funded by: Creative Commons provides initial funding for a fulltime > staff role & London office costs. Long term, iCommons should aim to > be financially independent of Creative Commons. > > Initial functions: > 1. To provide an online "home" for the international voice of the > Commons - eg. www.icommons.org/news > 2. To provide an online "home" for a gateway to best practice Commons > projects around the world - eg. www.icommons.org/projects > 3. To provide an identity to unify and promote Commons campaigns and > activities around the world - eg. www.icommons.org/campaigns > 4. To provide a gateway that connects volunteers with Commons > projects and campaigns - eg. www.icommons.org/commoners > 5. To provide a co-ordination and facilitation role for the formation > of international project and campaign consortiums that benefit the > Commons. > > ##iCommons and Creative Commons and Creative Commons International... > > Creative Commons will soon celebrate another birthday. The CC staff > are always thinking about better ways to deliver their goals and I > will continue to use my position as a CC funded staff member to > promote and facilitate the inclusion of the iCommoners' perspective > in everything they do. > > Creative Commons International, the work that Christiane and many of > you have undertaken to port and maintain licenses continues to go > from strength to strength. The legal porting process is well > developed and continues to provide guidance for those of you either > porting or maintaining licenses. iCommons and Creative Commons > International will work closely together in recognition that many of > you will be actively participating in both the legal projects and > iCommons. > > And finally, iCommons is born today! As of the end of last week, the > charitable organisation incorporated in England is legally called > iCommons. The first challenge is to create a website that provides a > home for the realisation of the functions I have outlined above. Just > as many of you worked towards the creation of a healthy commons by > contributing to the license porting project, I am hopeful that many > of you will want to continue to inspire and facilitate the use of > those licenses and other tools and projects that grow the commons by > contributing to, and benefiting from iCommons. > > Over the next few weeks I will be asking for participation in the > first iCommons projects. Count down has begun :) > > Regards > Paula > > ps. please feel free to send onto country lists. > > --------------- > sent: 17th November 2005 > subject: Creative Commons and iCommons > > Dear All, > > Recently Creative Commons celebrated the 24th launch of a Creative > Commons local jurisdiction license (congratulations Slovenia!). With > at least 70 local jurisdiction licenses expected over the next couple > of years and millions of CC licensed objects, it is clear that > Creative Commons is an extraordinary international phenomenon. > However, as we started to discuss at the iSummit in June, this rate > of growth brings with it the need to re-think the organisational > structure and to think carefully about how Creative Commons presents > itself to an international public. > > As we've grown, we've come to recognize that the diversity and energy > of the communities that have been started under the iCommons project > need their own institutional structure. That institution needs to > support more than the licensing project that has been the core > mission of Creative Commons. > > We have therefore decided to migrate the iCommons project to its own > separate legal entity. That entity will be called "iCommons"; it will > have its own board, and is now incorporated with nonprofit status in > the UK. I will serve as the executive director of this new entity. > For now, iCommons continues as a subsidiary of Creative Commons, and > will be supported by Creative Commons. But eventually, depending upon > how iCommons grows, it could become a wholly separate entity, devoted > to spreading CC licenses, as well as addressing the wide range of > issues that have the attention of our iCommons partners. Whether, and > how, iCommons develops will depend upon what you decide. > > Creative Commons will continue to work to launch Creative Commons > licenses within legal jurisdictions around the world. Christiane > Asschenfeldt will direct that project from Berlin with the help of a > new assistant, Eva Lutterbuese (eva at creativecommons.org ), as well as > with Tessi Rieber, who will continue to work for the Berlin office as > a student intern for two days per week. It has been Christiane's > work so far that made the the international movement of Creative > Commons possible. But if we are to keep the high quality that the > licensing project requires, it is essential that Creative Commons > keeps strong direction over the licensing project, as distinct from > the other great work of the iCommons community. > > Therefore, in the future, new countries entering into the porting > project will work with Christiane to launch licenses within their > jurisdiction. Those licenses will continue to be maintained both > locally and through Creative Commons. Then, depending upon the > interest within the country, community members can then join > iCommons. We expect iCommons to be a home for many "free culture" > projects internationally. But the core will always be you. > Christiane's project to internationalize the work of Creative Commons > will be named "Creative Commons International." That project will > continue to be supported within Creative Commons. > > Over the next months, we will be adding a great deal more detail to > this new structuring and in doing so we hope we will address many of > the questions that are raised by this first email. However it is > important to note that while the world of Creative Commons > International will be very defined in keeping with the renewed focus > on the licenses, the world of iCommons will be far more open. Start > to think about how you think you would like to contribute to > iCommons, how it should be structured as a volunteer organisation and > about the kinds of activities it should be engaged in. Remember, > Creative Commons is supporting iCommons initially but the > responsibility for it in the long term resides with the community. > What do you want to achieve and how can we structure it to ensure > that you succeed? > > There are lots of questions that we will be answering in a second > email that is coming on Monday, so stay tuned. > > > Paula Le Dieu > Executive Director > iCommons > paula at creativecommons.org > > _______________________________________________ > Cc-icommons mailing list > Cc-icommons at lists.ibiblio.org > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-icommons > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-be/attachments/20051123/118723a9/attac > hment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Cc-be mailing list > Cc-be at lists.ibiblio.org > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-be > > > End of Cc-be Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5 > ************************************ > > _______________________________________________ > Cc-be mailing list > Cc-be at lists.ibiblio.org > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-be > -- Hannelore Dekeyser Legal researcher Interdisciplinary Centre for Law and ICT (ICRI) - K.U.Leuven Tiensestraat 41 B-3000 LEUVEN - BELGIUM [t] +32 16 32 54 70 [f] +32 16 32 54 38 [e] hannelore.dekeyser at law.kuleuven.be - !!new e-mail address!! [w] www.law.kuleuven.ac.be/icri/ - www.ibbt.be Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From hannelore.dekeyser at law.kuleuven.be Fri Dec 2 10:43:53 2005 From: hannelore.dekeyser at law.kuleuven.be (Hannelore Dekeyser) Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 16:43:53 +0100 Subject: [Cc-be] iCommons and "right to property" In-Reply-To: <000001c5f74c$af719980$cf42b886@vub.ac.be> References: <000001c5f74c$af719980$cf42b886@vub.ac.be> Message-ID: <43906BB9.1070407@law.kuleuven.be> Hello, To be very frank, I find your message rather puzzling. I don't see any contradiction between the iCommons initiative and the right to property. iCommons is not a lobby to abolish intellectual property right law, or even to limit its scope. It offers authors a different way to make use of their property rights in their works, particularly by making a standardized licencing scheme available. Granted, this licence is very generous in its terms. The right to property enshrined in the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union is by no means absolute. Moreover, the same Charter also guaranties freedom of expression, which includes the right to receive and impart ideas. I'm curious to know what you find disturbing about the iCommons initiative. Kind regards, Hannelore The Charter homepage: http://www.europarl.eu.int/charter/default_en.htm wim schreurs wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to remind you again to the following article of the Charter of > Fundamental Rights of the European Union (O.J.C. 364, 18.12.2000). > Article 17. "Right to property", sub 2 : "Intellectual property shall be > protected." > > Kind regards, > Wim Schreurs > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: cc-be-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org > [mailto:cc-be-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org]Namens > cc-be-request at lists.ibiblio.org > Verzonden: woensdag 30 november 2005 18:00 > Aan: cc-be at lists.ibiblio.org > Onderwerp: Cc-be Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5 > > > Send Cc-be mailing list submissions to > cc-be at lists.ibiblio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-be > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cc-be-request at lists.ibiblio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cc-be-owner at lists.ibiblio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Cc-be digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Fwd: [Cc-icommons] iCommons - the story continues... (Yong Liu) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:00:37 +0800 > From: Yong Liu > Subject: [Cc-be] Fwd: [Cc-icommons] iCommons - the story continues... > To: Creative-Commons-China at googlegroups.com > Cc: cc-ar at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-nr at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-tw at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-jo at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-ph at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-jp at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-cl at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-nz at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-mex at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-latam at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-pe at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-se at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-be at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-es at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-dk at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-hu at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-br at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-il at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-ca at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-cat at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-fr at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-za at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-ie at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-co at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-au at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-nl at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-pl at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-my at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-in at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-ng at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-cn at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-africa at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-ch at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-mx at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-at at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-fi at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-de at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-uk at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-mt at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-hr at lists.ibiblio.org, > cc-kr at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-it at lists.ibiblio.org > Message-ID: <96a293ee0511221900r2072e257m at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dear All, > > At the end of last week I sent out an introductory email about the > future of Creative Commons International and iCommons. I promised > that more details would be coming this week. And here it is. This > will not answer all your questions but I am hopeful that it will > begin to answer the question of "what is iCommons?". Christiane > Asschenfeldt (Executive Director of Creative Commons International) > intends to send a similar email re-affirming the ongoing role and > function of Creative Commons International and together they should > provide an overall picture of the international community. For those > of you that may not have had a chance to read my earlier email, I > have included it at the bottom of this email for easy reference. > > ##iCommons Information - > Location: International with an office in London, UK > Staff supported by Creative Commons: Paula Le Dieu (Director, iCommons) > Who else is iCommons?: Open to anyone that chooses to participate. > This of course includes everyone that helps with the national porting > projects but also authors, artists, creators, producers, users, > campaigners, activists, the floss community - in fact, anyone > interested in furthering the health of the commons. > Funded by: Creative Commons provides initial funding for a fulltime > staff role & London office costs. Long term, iCommons should aim to > be financially independent of Creative Commons. > > Initial functions: > 1. To provide an online "home" for the international voice of the > Commons - eg. www.icommons.org/news > 2. To provide an online "home" for a gateway to best practice Commons > projects around the world - eg. www.icommons.org/projects > 3. To provide an identity to unify and promote Commons campaigns and > activities around the world - eg. www.icommons.org/campaigns > 4. To provide a gateway that connects volunteers with Commons > projects and campaigns - eg. www.icommons.org/commoners > 5. To provide a co-ordination and facilitation role for the formation > of international project and campaign consortiums that benefit the > Commons. > > ##iCommons and Creative Commons and Creative Commons International... > > Creative Commons will soon celebrate another birthday. The CC staff > are always thinking about better ways to deliver their goals and I > will continue to use my position as a CC funded staff member to > promote and facilitate the inclusion of the iCommoners' perspective > in everything they do. > > Creative Commons International, the work that Christiane and many of > you have undertaken to port and maintain licenses continues to go > from strength to strength. The legal porting process is well > developed and continues to provide guidance for those of you either > porting or maintaining licenses. iCommons and Creative Commons > International will work closely together in recognition that many of > you will be actively participating in both the legal projects and > iCommons. > > And finally, iCommons is born today! As of the end of last week, the > charitable organisation incorporated in England is legally called > iCommons. The first challenge is to create a website that provides a > home for the realisation of the functions I have outlined above. Just > as many of you worked towards the creation of a healthy commons by > contributing to the license porting project, I am hopeful that many > of you will want to continue to inspire and facilitate the use of > those licenses and other tools and projects that grow the commons by > contributing to, and benefiting from iCommons. > > Over the next few weeks I will be asking for participation in the > first iCommons projects. Count down has begun :) > > Regards > Paula > > ps. please feel free to send onto country lists. > > --------------- > sent: 17th November 2005 > subject: Creative Commons and iCommons > > Dear All, > > Recently Creative Commons celebrated the 24th launch of a Creative > Commons local jurisdiction license (congratulations Slovenia!). With > at least 70 local jurisdiction licenses expected over the next couple > of years and millions of CC licensed objects, it is clear that > Creative Commons is an extraordinary international phenomenon. > However, as we started to discuss at the iSummit in June, this rate > of growth brings with it the need to re-think the organisational > structure and to think carefully about how Creative Commons presents > itself to an international public. > > As we've grown, we've come to recognize that the diversity and energy > of the communities that have been started under the iCommons project > need their own institutional structure. That institution needs to > support more than the licensing project that has been the core > mission of Creative Commons. > > We have therefore decided to migrate the iCommons project to its own > separate legal entity. That entity will be called "iCommons"; it will > have its own board, and is now incorporated with nonprofit status in > the UK. I will serve as the executive director of this new entity. > For now, iCommons continues as a subsidiary of Creative Commons, and > will be supported by Creative Commons. But eventually, depending upon > how iCommons grows, it could become a wholly separate entity, devoted > to spreading CC licenses, as well as addressing the wide range of > issues that have the attention of our iCommons partners. Whether, and > how, iCommons develops will depend upon what you decide. > > Creative Commons will continue to work to launch Creative Commons > licenses within legal jurisdictions around the world. Christiane > Asschenfeldt will direct that project from Berlin with the help of a > new assistant, Eva Lutterbuese (eva at creativecommons.org ), as well as > with Tessi Rieber, who will continue to work for the Berlin office as > a student intern for two days per week. It has been Christiane's > work so far that made the the international movement of Creative > Commons possible. But if we are to keep the high quality that the > licensing project requires, it is essential that Creative Commons > keeps strong direction over the licensing project, as distinct from > the other great work of the iCommons community. > > Therefore, in the future, new countries entering into the porting > project will work with Christiane to launch licenses within their > jurisdiction. Those licenses will continue to be maintained both > locally and through Creative Commons. Then, depending upon the > interest within the country, community members can then join > iCommons. We expect iCommons to be a home for many "free culture" > projects internationally. But the core will always be you. > Christiane's project to internationalize the work of Creative Commons > will be named "Creative Commons International." That project will > continue to be supported within Creative Commons. > > Over the next months, we will be adding a great deal more detail to > this new structuring and in doing so we hope we will address many of > the questions that are raised by this first email. However it is > important to note that while the world of Creative Commons > International will be very defined in keeping with the renewed focus > on the licenses, the world of iCommons will be far more open. Start > to think about how you think you would like to contribute to > iCommons, how it should be structured as a volunteer organisation and > about the kinds of activities it should be engaged in. Remember, > Creative Commons is supporting iCommons initially but the > responsibility for it in the long term resides with the community. > What do you want to achieve and how can we structure it to ensure > that you succeed? > > There are lots of questions that we will be answering in a second > email that is coming on Monday, so stay tuned. > > > Paula Le Dieu > Executive Director > iCommons > paula at creativecommons.org > > _______________________________________________ > Cc-icommons mailing list > Cc-icommons at lists.ibiblio.org > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-icommons > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-be/attachments/20051123/118723a9/attac > hment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Cc-be mailing list > Cc-be at lists.ibiblio.org > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-be > > > End of Cc-be Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5 > ************************************ > > _______________________________________________ > Cc-be mailing list > Cc-be at lists.ibiblio.org > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-be > -- Hannelore Dekeyser Legal researcher Interdisciplinary Centre for Law and ICT (ICRI) - K.U.Leuven Tiensestraat 41 B-3000 LEUVEN - BELGIUM [t] +32 16 32 54 70 [f] +32 16 32 54 38 [e] hannelore.dekeyser at law.kuleuven.be - !!new e-mail address!! [w] www.law.kuleuven.ac.be/icri/ - www.ibbt.be Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From hannelore.dekeyser at law.kuleuven.be Sun Dec 4 16:11:39 2005 From: hannelore.dekeyser at law.kuleuven.be (Hannelore Dekeyser) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 22:11:39 +0100 Subject: [Cc-be] iCommons and "right to property" In-Reply-To: <000701c5f75f$da191d80$cf42b886@vub.ac.be> References: <000701c5f75f$da191d80$cf42b886@vub.ac.be> Message-ID: <43935B8B.5030702@law.kuleuven.be> wim schreurs wrote: > Hi, > > I absolutely support the cc initiative. Maybe the message is misplaced here, > because it might sound as if article 17 conflicts with creative commons. That's the risk of discussing in a different language I suppose, more misunderstandings. :-) > On > the contrary, creative commons makes the concept of intellectual property > rights practical and thus possible in the information society. I just found > it worth mentioning that the right to intellectual property is part of the > chapter of fundamental rights of the european union. > That is interesting. Intellectual property wasn't mentionned explicitely in the European Convention on Human Rights, though it protects property in general. Kind regards, Hannelore > Kind regards > Wim Schreurs > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Hannelore Dekeyser [mailto:hannelore.dekeyser at law.kuleuven.be] > Verzonden: vrijdag 2 december 2005 16:44 > Aan: cc-be at lists.ibiblio.org > CC: wim.schreurs at vub.ac.be > Onderwerp: Re: [Cc-be] iCommons and "right to property" > > > Hello, > > To be very frank, I find your message rather puzzling. > > I don't see any contradiction between the iCommons initiative and the > right to property. iCommons is not a lobby to abolish intellectual > property right law, or even to limit its scope. > > It offers authors a different way to make use of their property rights > in their works, particularly by making a standardized licencing scheme > available. Granted, this licence is very generous in its terms. > > The right to property enshrined in the Charter of > Fundamental Rights of the European Union is by no means absolute. > Moreover, the same Charter also guaranties freedom of expression, which > includes the right to receive and impart ideas. > > I'm curious to know what you find disturbing about the iCommons initiative. > > Kind regards, > > Hannelore > > > The Charter homepage: > http://www.europarl.eu.int/charter/default_en.htm > > wim schreurs wrote: > >>Hello, >> >>I would like to remind you again to the following article of the Charter > > of > >>Fundamental Rights of the European Union (O.J.C. 364, 18.12.2000). >>Article 17. "Right to property", sub 2 : "Intellectual property shall be >>protected." >> >>Kind regards, >>Wim Schreurs >> >>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>Van: cc-be-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org >>[mailto:cc-be-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org]Namens >>cc-be-request at lists.ibiblio.org >>Verzonden: woensdag 30 november 2005 18:00 >>Aan: cc-be at lists.ibiblio.org >>Onderwerp: Cc-be Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5 >> >> >>Send Cc-be mailing list submissions to >> cc-be at lists.ibiblio.org >> >>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-be >>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> cc-be-request at lists.ibiblio.org >> >>You can reach the person managing the list at >> cc-be-owner at lists.ibiblio.org >> >>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>than "Re: Contents of Cc-be digest..." >> >> >>Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Fwd: [Cc-icommons] iCommons - the story continues... (Yong Liu) >> >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>Message: 1 >>Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:00:37 +0800 >>From: Yong Liu >>Subject: [Cc-be] Fwd: [Cc-icommons] iCommons - the story continues... >>To: Creative-Commons-China at googlegroups.com >>Cc: cc-ar at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-nr at lists.ibiblio.org, >> cc-tw at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-jo at lists.ibiblio.org, >> cc-ph at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-jp at lists.ibiblio.org, >> cc-cl at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-nz at lists.ibiblio.org, >> cc-mex at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-latam at lists.ibiblio.org, >> cc-pe at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-se at lists.ibiblio.org, >> cc-be at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-es at lists.ibiblio.org, >> cc-dk at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-hu at lists.ibiblio.org, >> cc-br at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-il at lists.ibiblio.org, >> cc-ca at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-cat at lists.ibiblio.org, >> cc-fr at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-za at lists.ibiblio.org, >> cc-ie at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-co at lists.ibiblio.org, >> cc-au at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-nl at lists.ibiblio.org, >> cc-pl at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-my at lists.ibiblio.org, >> cc-in at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-ng at lists.ibiblio.org, >> cc-cn at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-africa at lists.ibiblio.org, >> cc-ch at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-mx at lists.ibiblio.org, >> cc-at at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-fi at lists.ibiblio.org, >> cc-de at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-uk at lists.ibiblio.org, >> cc-mt at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-hr at lists.ibiblio.org, >> cc-kr at lists.ibiblio.org, cc-it at lists.ibiblio.org >>Message-ID: <96a293ee0511221900r2072e257m at mail.gmail.com> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >>Dear All, >> >>At the end of last week I sent out an introductory email about the >>future of Creative Commons International and iCommons. I promised >>that more details would be coming this week. And here it is. This >>will not answer all your questions but I am hopeful that it will >>begin to answer the question of "what is iCommons?". Christiane >>Asschenfeldt (Executive Director of Creative Commons International) >>intends to send a similar email re-affirming the ongoing role and >>function of Creative Commons International and together they should >>provide an overall picture of the international community. For those >>of you that may not have had a chance to read my earlier email, I >>have included it at the bottom of this email for easy reference. >> >>##iCommons Information - >>Location: International with an office in London, UK >>Staff supported by Creative Commons: Paula Le Dieu (Director, iCommons) >>Who else is iCommons?: Open to anyone that chooses to participate. >>This of course includes everyone that helps with the national porting >>projects but also authors, artists, creators, producers, users, >>campaigners, activists, the floss community - in fact, anyone >>interested in furthering the health of the commons. >>Funded by: Creative Commons provides initial funding for a fulltime >>staff role & London office costs. Long term, iCommons should aim to >>be financially independent of Creative Commons. >> >>Initial functions: >>1. To provide an online "home" for the international voice of the >>Commons - eg. www.icommons.org/news >>2. To provide an online "home" for a gateway to best practice Commons >>projects around the world - eg. www.icommons.org/projects >>3. To provide an identity to unify and promote Commons campaigns and >>activities around the world - eg. www.icommons.org/campaigns >>4. To provide a gateway that connects volunteers with Commons >>projects and campaigns - eg. www.icommons.org/commoners >>5. To provide a co-ordination and facilitation role for the formation >>of international project and campaign consortiums that benefit the >>Commons. >> >>##iCommons and Creative Commons and Creative Commons International... >> >>Creative Commons will soon celebrate another birthday. The CC staff >>are always thinking about better ways to deliver their goals and I >>will continue to use my position as a CC funded staff member to >>promote and facilitate the inclusion of the iCommoners' perspective >>in everything they do. >> >>Creative Commons International, the work that Christiane and many of >>you have undertaken to port and maintain licenses continues to go >>from strength to strength. The legal porting process is well >>developed and continues to provide guidance for those of you either >>porting or maintaining licenses. iCommons and Creative Commons >>International will work closely together in recognition that many of >>you will be actively participating in both the legal projects and >>iCommons. >> >>And finally, iCommons is born today! As of the end of last week, the >>charitable organisation incorporated in England is legally called >>iCommons. The first challenge is to create a website that provides a >>home for the realisation of the functions I have outlined above. Just >>as many of you worked towards the creation of a healthy commons by >>contributing to the license porting project, I am hopeful that many >>of you will want to continue to inspire and facilitate the use of >>those licenses and other tools and projects that grow the commons by >>contributing to, and benefiting from iCommons. >> >>Over the next few weeks I will be asking for participation in the >>first iCommons projects. Count down has begun :) >> >>Regards >>Paula >> >>ps. please feel free to send onto country lists. >> >>--------------- >>sent: 17th November 2005 >>subject: Creative Commons and iCommons >> >>Dear All, >> >>Recently Creative Commons celebrated the 24th launch of a Creative >>Commons local jurisdiction license (congratulations Slovenia!). With >>at least 70 local jurisdiction licenses expected over the next couple >>of years and millions of CC licensed objects, it is clear that >>Creative Commons is an extraordinary international phenomenon. >>However, as we started to discuss at the iSummit in June, this rate >>of growth brings with it the need to re-think the organisational >>structure and to think carefully about how Creative Commons presents >>itself to an international public. >> >>As we've grown, we've come to recognize that the diversity and energy >>of the communities that have been started under the iCommons project >>need their own institutional structure. That institution needs to >>support more than the licensing project that has been the core >>mission of Creative Commons. >> >>We have therefore decided to migrate the iCommons project to its own >>separate legal entity. That entity will be called "iCommons"; it will >>have its own board, and is now incorporated with nonprofit status in >>the UK. I will serve as the executive director of this new entity. >>For now, iCommons continues as a subsidiary of Creative Commons, and >>will be supported by Creative Commons. But eventually, depending upon >>how iCommons grows, it could become a wholly separate entity, devoted >>to spreading CC licenses, as well as addressing the wide range of >>issues that have the attention of our iCommons partners. Whether, and >>how, iCommons develops will depend upon what you decide. >> >>Creative Commons will continue to work to launch Creative Commons >>licenses within legal jurisdictions around the world. Christiane >>Asschenfeldt will direct that project from Berlin with the help of a >>new assistant, Eva Lutterbuese (eva at creativecommons.org ), as well as >>with Tessi Rieber, who will continue to work for the Berlin office as >>a student intern for two days per week. It has been Christiane's >>work so far that made the the international movement of Creative >>Commons possible. But if we are to keep the high quality that the >>licensing project requires, it is essential that Creative Commons >>keeps strong direction over the licensing project, as distinct from >>the other great work of the iCommons community. >> >>Therefore, in the future, new countries entering into the porting >>project will work with Christiane to launch licenses within their >>jurisdiction. Those licenses will continue to be maintained both >>locally and through Creative Commons. Then, depending upon the >>interest within the country, community members can then join >>iCommons. We expect iCommons to be a home for many "free culture" >>projects internationally. But the core will always be you. >>Christiane's project to internationalize the work of Creative Commons >>will be named "Creative Commons International." That project will >>continue to be supported within Creative Commons. >> >>Over the next months, we will be adding a great deal more detail to >>this new structuring and in doing so we hope we will address many of >>the questions that are raised by this first email. However it is >>important to note that while the world of Creative Commons >>International will be very defined in keeping with the renewed focus >>on the licenses, the world of iCommons will be far more open. Start >>to think about how you think you would like to contribute to >>iCommons, how it should be structured as a volunteer organisation and >>about the kinds of activities it should be engaged in. Remember, >>Creative Commons is supporting iCommons initially but the >>responsibility for it in the long term resides with the community. >>What do you want to achieve and how can we structure it to ensure >>that you succeed? >> >>There are lots of questions that we will be answering in a second >>email that is coming on Monday, so stay tuned. >> >> >>Paula Le Dieu >>Executive Director >>iCommons >>paula at creativecommons.org >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Cc-icommons mailing list >>Cc-icommons at lists.ibiblio.org >>http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-icommons >>-------------- next part -------------- >>An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>URL: >> > > http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-be/attachments/20051123/118723a9/attac > >>hment-0001.htm >> >>------------------------------ >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Cc-be mailing list >>Cc-be at lists.ibiblio.org >>http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-be >> >> >>End of Cc-be Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5 >>************************************ >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Cc-be mailing list >>Cc-be at lists.ibiblio.org >>http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-be >> > > > -- > Hannelore Dekeyser > Legal researcher > > Interdisciplinary Centre for Law and ICT (ICRI) - K.U.Leuven > Tiensestraat 41 > B-3000 LEUVEN - BELGIUM > [t] +32 16 32 54 70 [f] +32 16 32 54 38 > [e] hannelore.dekeyser at law.kuleuven.be - !!new e-mail address!! > [w] www.law.kuleuven.ac.be/icri/ - www.ibbt.be > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > -- Hannelore Dekeyser Legal researcher Interdisciplinary Centre for Law and ICT (ICRI) - K.U.Leuven Tiensestraat 41 B-3000 LEUVEN - BELGIUM [t] +32 16 32 54 70 [f] +32 16 32 54 38 [e] hannelore.dekeyser at law.kuleuven.be - !!new e-mail address!! 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