From stefan at chipsvzw.be Wed Oct 20 06:05:31 2004 From: stefan at chipsvzw.be (Stefan Kolgen) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:05:31 +0200 Subject: [Cc-be] Congrats! Message-ID: <93733AF5-227F-11D9-B3D0-000A956E1446@chipsvzw.be> Congratulations to all the people of the CRID who worked out the draft for the Belgian cc-license. I can't wait to check out the Flemisch version. Maybe the following is of some importance in the near future: By selecting a license on the creative commons website (e.g. http://creativecommons.org/license/?format=text), one has to select the ' Jurisdiction of your license'. Creative commons should be aware that Belgium has 3 common languages in use: French, Dutch/Flemisch and German. A mere indication of 'Belgium' would not be sufficient enough. Once again: thanks S?v?rine, Philippe, Loic and M?lanie! -- STADSchromosomen - beeld van een stad De bloemlezing is nu beschikbaar voor download! http://www.stadschromosomen.be/14.htm -- C.H.I.P.S. vzw Tabakvest 15 bus 6 B-2000 Antwerpen Tel: +32 3 290 48 37 Mob: +32 475 610 598 E-mail: stefan at chipsvzw.be Url: http://www.chipsvzw.be/ From mark at markvdb.be Wed Oct 20 06:12:30 2004 From: mark at markvdb.be (Mark Van den Borre) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:12:30 +0200 Subject: [Cc-be] launch event? Message-ID: <41763A0E.6080907@markvdb.be> Hi all, Now that http://creativecommons.org/projects/international/be/ has been officially announced and looks close to completion... What about the CC.BE launch event? I'm ready to volunteer: * every day from 8.30 am to 1 pm * from home or from Brussels * for as long as needed At your service, Mark Van den Borre classical guitar & digital freedom -- Mark Van den Borre Noormannenstraat 113 3000 Leuven, Belgium mark at markvdb.be From stefan at chipsvzw.be Wed Oct 20 06:12:42 2004 From: stefan at chipsvzw.be (Stefan Kolgen) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:12:42 +0200 Subject: [Cc-be] launch event? Message-ID: <942273CA-2280-11D9-B3D0-000A956E1446@chipsvzw.be> Count me in too! -- STADSchromosomen - beeld van een stad De bloemlezing is nu beschikbaar voor download! http://www.stadschromosomen.be/14.htm -- C.H.I.P.S. vzw Tabakvest 15 bus 6 B-2000 Antwerpen Tel: +32 3 290 48 37 Mob: +32 475 610 598 E-mail: stefan at chipsvzw.be Url: http://www.chipsvzw.be/ From han at indymedia.be Wed Oct 20 09:09:13 2004 From: han at indymedia.be (han at indymedia.be) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:09:13 +0200 Subject: [Cc-be] re: launch event? Message-ID: <1098277753.5126.85.camel@localhost.localdomain> I support the idea of a launch event. Even if it is a simple press conference,... I feel this would be apropriate. We at www.indymedia.be could help spread the word and will cover the event. Greetings han From lists at tomeykens.com Thu Oct 21 05:57:08 2004 From: lists at tomeykens.com (Tom Eykens) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:57:08 +0200 Subject: [Cc-be] launch event? In-Reply-To: <41763A0E.6080907@markvdb.be> References: <41763A0E.6080907@markvdb.be> Message-ID: <417787F4.7060900@tomeykens.com> I'm in! and I'm willing to put in some sponsoring for printing work etc... Tom Mark Van den Borre wrote: > Hi all, > > Now that http://creativecommons.org/projects/international/be/ has > been officially announced and looks close to completion... > > What about the CC.BE launch event? I'm ready to volunteer: > * every day from 8.30 am to 1 pm > * from home or from Brussels > * for as long as needed > > At your service, > > Mark Van den Borre > classical guitar & digital freedom From ake at kamer.cdenv.be Thu Oct 21 10:18:27 2004 From: ake at kamer.cdenv.be (Ann Kermans) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 16:18:27 +0200 Subject: [Cc-be] Links don't work Message-ID: <000d01c4b77f$4f7b5970$150101c0@kamer.cdenv.be> Hello, the following links don't work.. And they contain the info I came to this sit for. could anyone provide me with the texts. Thank you very much. Greet, Ann Kermans Medewerkster Jef Van den Bergh CD&V Kamerfractie Natieplein 2 1008 Brussel 02/549.88.63 ake at kamer.cdenv.be http://www.jefvandenbergh.be From han at indymedia.be Thu Oct 21 11:20:08 2004 From: han at indymedia.be (han at indymedia.be) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 17:20:08 +0200 Subject: [Cc-be] launch event? In-Reply-To: <417787F4.7060900@tomeykens.com> References: <41763A0E.6080907@markvdb.be> <417787F4.7060900@tomeykens.com> Message-ID: <1098372009.6822.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> There was a nice artickle in today's Metro about the belgian version of Creative Commons. greets han On Thu, 2004-10-21 at 11:57 +0200, Tom Eykens wrote: > I'm in! > and I'm willing to put in some sponsoring for printing work etc... > > Tom > > Mark Van den Borre wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Now that http://creativecommons.org/projects/international/be/ has > > been officially announced and looks close to completion... > > > > What about the CC.BE launch event? I'm ready to volunteer: > > * every day from 8.30 am to 1 pm > > * from home or from Brussels > > * for as long as needed > > > > At your service, > > > > Mark Van den Borre > > classical guitar & digital freedom > > > > _______________________________________________ > Cc-be mailing list > Cc-be at lists.ibiblio.org > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-be > From stefan at chipsvzw.be Fri Oct 22 03:18:30 2004 From: stefan at chipsvzw.be (Stefan Kolgen) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:18:30 +0200 Subject: [Cc-be] Links don't work In-Reply-To: <000d01c4b77f$4f7b5970$150101c0@kamer.cdenv.be> References: <000d01c4b77f$4f7b5970$150101c0@kamer.cdenv.be> Message-ID: <936291E7-23FA-11D9-94C0-000A956E1446@chipsvzw.be> Dear Ann It is not very clear about what 'links' you are talking about...? The text from the license draft is available at: http://creativecommons.org/worldwide/be/ Kind Regards Stefan K. On 21-okt-04, at 16:18, Ann Kermans wrote: > Hello, > the following links don't work.. And they contain the info I came to > this > sit for. could anyone provide me with the texts. Thank you very much. > Greet, > > Ann Kermans > Medewerkster Jef Van den Bergh > CD&V Kamerfractie > Natieplein 2 > 1008 Brussel > 02/549.88.63 > ake at kamer.cdenv.be > http://www.jefvandenbergh.be > > > _______________________________________________ > Cc-be mailing list > Cc-be at lists.ibiblio.org > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-be > > -- STADSchromosomen - beeld van een stad De bloemlezing is nu beschikbaar voor download! http://www.stadschromosomen.be/14.htm -- C.H.I.P.S. vzw Tabakvest 15 bus 6 B-2000 Antwerpen Tel: +32 3 290 48 37 Mob: +32 475 610 598 E-mail: stefan at chipsvzw.be Url: http://www.chipsvzw.be/ From ake at kamer.cdenv.be Mon Oct 25 03:25:02 2004 From: ake at kamer.cdenv.be (Ann Kermans) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:25:02 +0200 Subject: [Cc-be] RE: Links don't work In-Reply-To: <20041022160008.8EA6E24B111@metalab.unc.edu> Message-ID: <000801c4ba63$be0c6af0$150101c0@kamer.cdenv.be> Well, it's the license draft and the english version of it who don't work.. Maybe my computer is fooling around with me, but I get an error message every time I try to access these links. Greetz, Ann From stefan at chipsvzw.be Mon Oct 25 03:42:54 2004 From: stefan at chipsvzw.be (Stefan Kolgen) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:42:54 +0200 Subject: [Cc-be] RE: Links don't work In-Reply-To: <000801c4ba63$be0c6af0$150101c0@kamer.cdenv.be> References: <000801c4ba63$be0c6af0$150101c0@kamer.cdenv.be> Message-ID: <7B521EB0-2659-11D9-9F7B-000A956E1446@chipsvzw.be> Ann, The links are working just fine. I think that you do not have Adobe Acrobat installed on your computer. Download Acrobat first and then try again! http://www.adobe.nl/products/acrobat/readstep2.html Kind Regards Stefan K. -- STADSchromosomen - beeld van een stad De bloemlezing is nu beschikbaar voor download! http://www.stadschromosomen.be/14.htm -- C.H.I.P.S. vzw Tabakvest 15 bus 6 B-2000 Antwerpen Tel: +32 3 290 48 37 Mob: +32 475 610 598 E-mail: stefan at chipsvzw.be Url: http://www.chipsvzw.be/ From severine.dusollier at fundp.ac.be Mon Oct 25 05:27:35 2004 From: severine.dusollier at fundp.ac.be (Severine Dusollier) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:27:35 +0200 Subject: [Cc-be] Belgian license and launch event Message-ID: Thanks to all of you who have showed interest in the discussion on the Belgium CC and welcome in that discussion list. I am the leader of the Creative Commons project in Belgium and the CRID (University of Namur), in which I am working, has translated the CC licence into French. Melamnie Carly, from the KUL has carried out the translation into Dutch. I'd like to make some clarifications. Due to a technical problem at CC staff, the licenses that have been posted on the Belgium website, are not the definitive ones. We are still waiting for the definitive licences, including the Dutch one, to be put on line by CC staff. Meanwhile, please don't download those licences. We will really start the discussion once the definitive texts are available to you. Philippe Laurent, Melanie Carly and myself, who have been in charge of the translation, will be then happy to read your comments and to answer to your questions. The goal is to make those licences as good as possible. As to the launch event, the CRID and the KUL are organising it with the collaboration of Constant vzw (www.constantvzw.com) and the IAK / IBK - Digitaal platform. Note that it will take place in Brussels, on December 10th, 2004. The date has been chosen as to include the event in the Jonctions / Verbindingen festival, organised by Constant, whose theme this year is precisely the copyleft movement and licences. We will post more details on that launch event very soon. I also would like to encourage everyone in that list to post her / his comments in her /his own language (French, Dutch or English). The discussion has started in English, which explains the language I have used, but at Belgium CC, we would like to keep it as multicultural as Belgium is. Thank you Severine -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-be/attachments/20041025/aed29d72/attachment.html From thomas at goorden.be Thu Oct 28 15:14:06 2004 From: thomas at goorden.be (Thomas Goorden) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:14:06 CEST Subject: [Cc-be] Vragen omtrend CC Message-ID: Hallo, Nog niet zo lang geleden heb ik CreativeCommons ontdekt en tot mijn (aangename) verrassing komt er ook een Belgische versie/vertaling. Nu denken we er aan CC te gaan gebruiken voor een langspeelfilm die volgende jaar zal worden opgenomen. Het lijkt mij een goede manier om elke (vrijwillige) medewerker, zowel scenario als beeld als geluid (muziek) op een bepaalde manier controle te geven, zonder legaal in de problemen te komen. Ik zit echter nog met enkele vraagjes: - is het een goed idee delen van een project individuele licenties te geven en op die manier van elkaars werk gebruikmaken voor het eindresultaat? (een film is een heel concrete collaboratie tussen meerdere creatievelingen) - is het mogelijk CC selectief toe te wijzen, bijvoorbeeld: Griet maakt een liedje, Jan mag het mee in zijn montage stoppen (en dus verknippen), en al de rest mag het wel beluisteren en verspreiden maar bv niet verkopen of verknippen. Ook naar onze sponsors toe zou een licentie (anders dan voor publiek) een leuke zaak zijn. - hoe verdien je geld aan een ge-CC-t project: stel, de film wordt commercieel gedistributeerd, geeft dat dan problemen? - hoe zit het met de relatie SABAM vs CC? Stel dat ??n van de muzikanten op de soundtrack ingeschreven staat bij SABAM, kan hij/zij een CC licentie verstrekken en wat is daar het effect van? Een hele hoop vragen waar ik niet meteen een oplossing voor vind op de CC.org site... Mvg, Thomas Goorden PS: indien het realistisch is, willen wij misschien wel CC "showcasen" in Belgi?.