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  • From: Vlad Glagolev <stealth AT tiberian.ru>
  • To: sm-discuss AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] Vote for a new webface, optimized.
  • Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 22:22:43 +0300

On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 12:18:00 -0600
Jeremy Blosser <jblosser-smgl AT firinn.org> wrote:

> On Jan 24, Vlad Glagolev [stealth AT tiberian.ru] wrote:
> > Thanks, I just followed Jeremy's advice[0] on this one.
>
> I wasn't talking about whether or not to update the content. Everyone
> wants the content to be maintained and useful and you've clearly done good
> work on this.
>
> > So my advice would be to set up a transparent proxy or change DNS
> > records for 'sourcemage.org' and 'www.sourcemage.org' and test it for
> > some time.
>
> This is the part I was talking about--the details of hosting, if you were
> wanting to change any of those, and you apparently are.

Oh, no. I just wanted to put it under official domain ASAP. And that's
the only way with minimal "downtime" I know of. By the "downtime" I
mean a time between preparing our current @sourcemage.org server and
putting new site under official domain.

So if it will not take a lot of time, then we can move directly to our
current server easily.

The setup is pretty minimal. And everything that's needed is already in
the test grimoire. It is installed under lighttpd server via FastCGI --
I hope it's not a problem.

Besides lighttpd there's the following spell-list:

common:
- sqlite
- python
- setuptools / distribute
- jinja2
- markupsafe

required for site:
- mercurial
- werkzeug
- hatta

required for news engine:
- libyaml
- pyyaml
- regex
- unidecode
- awesome-slugify
- python-markdown
- lxml
- wok

optional for site:
- pygments -- for code highlighting support
- recaptcha-client -- for CAPTCHA support when posting to wiki
- wsgigzip -- for compressed html/css/js output

optional for news engine:
- pygments -- for code highlighting support
- docutils -- for RST-formatted files rendering support (not really
needed, because all current files are written in markdown)

> As the person who
> has had the responsibility to maintain our hosting and architecture
> according to the standards the distro wanted to maintain ever since the
> Great Outage, I'm not into having the major bits hosted in fragmented ways
> not under control of the distro unless there's a very compelling reason.
> So, doing that would require a vote, if there is an actual disagreement
> about it--let's talk about it first and find out if there is.
>
> > I'm not sure current @sourcemage.org server is ready for setting this
> > up. It must be running at least stable grimoire 0.61 with some
>
> There's no reason at all we can't provide whatever components you need.
> Please give me a list. "stable grimoire 0.61" is not that helpful, as we
> all know our grimoire version numbers don't tell a lot about the specifics
> of the packages needed. The current node that has the website has packages
> from various grimoire versions, depending on when those packages were last
> updated upstream, security updates, etc. Some pieces are no doubt older
> than what's in 0.61, some are newer.
>
> As mentioned in the past, as well, I have been working on a migration to a
> different provider that would give us better hosting and cheaper cost and
> with better direct access to our nodes (both network access and physical
> access). The biggest remaining part of that was the website, but I stopped
> work when you announced what you were doing because it would make no sense
> to move the old stuff over if it was going to be replaced. This means that
> if you're ready to put this on the project's hosting I can simply build it
> out as you need it up front.
>
> > additional spells from my personal grimoire[1] or test grimoire (which
> > is not a very good thing for production server).
>
> We can accomodate these as well. And while I prefer all my prod stuff stay
> on stable, when the stable grimoire releases broke down again, that became
> non-viable.
>
>
>


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Vlad Glagolev <stealth AT tiberian.ru>

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