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  • From: Flavien Bridault <f.bridault AT fra.net>
  • To: sm-discuss AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] switch
  • Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 23:09:37 +0200

Le vendredi 02 septembre 2005 à 21:56 +0200, Bas van Gils a écrit :
> On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 09:45:09PM +0200, Flavien Bridault wrote:
> > Le vendredi 02 septembre 2005 à 20:47 +0200, Bas van Gils a écrit :
> > > Hi all,
> Sorry that you left us, but I well understand your motivations.
>
> Hi,
>
> I've read your posting twice now and must say that I'm a bit amazed. Anyway,
> I'm not *leaving* as such.. just switching for a while. Playing with linux
> is
> nice but I don't have the time for it now...
>
Sorry to take you as an example, I wanted to post about this subject and
your mail arrived in the same time. So I concluded too quickly that you
were also tired about same kind of problems...

> [ ... ]
> > It's a big waste of time to do advertising or any promotion with such
> > behaviors. I heard that SMGL were a distribution for system
> > administrators ?? Do you think it can really be with such problems ? Do
> > you think an administrator can lost hours to fix one of his server
> > because of a spell update ?
>
> Well, stuff breaks occasionally yeah. I've managed to avoid too much
> breakages
> by being very careful with my updates and keeping an eye on IRC, the
> mailinglists and bugzilla.
> I agree with you that it can be annoying if stuff
> breaks. However, I must say that the tone of your posting doesn't give the
> credit to our developers. A lot of people work really hard to make this a
> good
> and workable distribution!

I didn't say that our developers do a bad work in general. I was just
talking on this particular case, when an update breaks a lot of spells.
And there is indeed a big paradox. For example, we are currently
discussing a lot on the better way to ensure sources integrity, we have
a good security team to ensure that our spells are safe, we have great
tools in sorcery, good spells, but on the contrary, we don't care about
breaking tons of packages with a simple update, without any notice in
the spell (even in the HISTORY). Am I the only one to think there is
something wrong with that ?

I think most people have not enough time to keep an eye on IRC, ML and
bugzilla as you suggest. And I also believe we lose users when such
things happen.
But maybe I do not well understand the purposes of SMGL and the people
we want to address to...

>
> g'luck and see you online,
>
> Bas
>
>
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