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  • From: Dufflebunk <dufflebunk AT dufflebunk.homeip.net>
  • To: eschabell AT sourcemage.org
  • Cc: eric AT sourcemage.com, sm-discuss <sm-discuss AT lists.ibiblio.org>, Eric Sandall <eric AT sandall.us>
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] Interesting Read
  • Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 11:30:13 -0000

Sounds good. Ryan did /a lot/ of work for us and deserves whatever
patience we can give. As for gifts, *shrug* I have no opinion. Thanks
for the info.

On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 05:03, Eric Schabell wrote:
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> > Reading the guys rant, it occurred to me that I've never seen any info
> > on the store we have (wherever it is). Not that I think there's a
> > problem, I'm just curious how it's working out.
> >
> I have been waiting to announce the status of this as it has taken the Ryan
> a
> bit to get the funds together that are in the account.
>
> The status right now is as follows:
>
> 1. Eric Womack is the store owner, it was transfered awhile back to him.
> All
> funds are then sent to an account under his name for Source Mage. That
> seems
> to be the way it all works thru CafePress.
>
> 2. Ryan has funds outstanding and has offered to solve the transfer as
> follows:
>
> "I will send you a check for $63.75 on June 15th. I will send the other
> half on July 15th. Per our earlier discussions, I simply cannot afford to
> pull much out of my budget at this point in time. I can hardly afford the
> 63.75 as is. I do have some extra project work coming up, and if payment
> arrives earlier, I may choose to send the second half sooner. But no
> promises."
>
> I can live with this. I have not heard back from Eric Womack as to the
> results
> of this agreement (have funds been received?).
>
> Ryan made one hint about us letting the funds go as a 'gift' for his work
> on
> the project. I have not agreed to this as I find it unfair to everyone that
> has also put time into the project. This is a sensitive point in my opinion
> and I hope you all will leave it alone, Ryan is not deserving of a flame
> war
> and/or critisism. I believe the money will come as soon as he can arrange
> it.
>
> 3. As for plans with the funds, I have one. I would like to have two
> t-shirts
> paid for and sent to me as gifts to the CVS hosting/maintainers. There are
> two persons involved there and I would provide pictures for the website as
> verification of the CVS box and gifts.
>
> That's about it for now. All future questions should be directed at Eric
> Womack with regards to the status and/or problems in our shop.
>
> I think a yearly overview of the status should/could be posted by Eric
> Womack
> as he see's fit.
>
>
>
>
>
> > Anyone have any idea how many people use SMGL?
> >
> > On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 20:05, Eric Sandall wrote:
> > > Derek Moyes said:
> > > > Anyone who was around for the Sorcerer / SourceMage Linux split may
> > > > want
> > >
> > > to read
> > >
> > > > this. It's well written, and clearly illustrates some of the points
> > >
> > > (arguments?)
> > >
> > > > our group made when it forked Sorcerer Linux.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.zynot.org/info/fork.html
> > >
> > > Wow. Daniel Robbins sounds quite a bit like Kyle Sallee at some points.
> > >
> > > I'd like to bring up a few things with this, then.
> > >
> > > First, I'd like to make sure that everyone here knows that all comments
> > > and suggestions are welcome and will not (well, should not, I can't
> > > control other's emotions) be held against someone personally. There
> > > have
> > > been some disagreements between developers here and I would like to
> > > think
> > > that we are all friends and are not holding grudges for disagreements
> > > over design, direction, etc. (it doesn't appear that any of us do, just
> > > saying... ;)).
> > >
> > > Second, while we may not be as large as Gentoo (20,000 to 150,000
> > > users?!), I'd like to say (from my perspective) that I believe our
> > > community has a much more stable and friendly course of interaction, on
> > > the mailing lists, IRC, and the forums[0] (yes, we _do_ have forums!
> > > :)).
> > >
> > > Thirdly, I would like for everyone whom has an idea about what they
> > > would
> > > like changed (direction of Sorcery, direction of the Grimoire, meeting
> > > times, salary, etc.) to discuss, either here, IRC, or the forums. And I
> > > mean constructive talks, not flamewars. :)
> > >
> > > And for all the users out there, if you feel you have some free time and
> > > would like to contribute to your favourite distributions (I /hope/ this
> > > is your favourite distribution, if not, leave your name and address on
> > > the forums and we'll get back to you...) then please contact the
> > > respective team[1] you would like to assist.
> > >
> > > -sandalle
> > >
> > > [0] http://forums.sourcemage.org/
> > > [1] http://wiki.sourcemage.org/index.php?page=The+Source+Mage+Developers
> >
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