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  • From: Rhonda Baird <rk.baird@yahoo.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] USDA Organic Integrity Database
  • Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 07:07:18 -0400

Braden Trauth and some others set up and trademarked a certification based on
permaculture called Permaganics Authenticated. Still in a roll-out phase, it
is intended to help solve this problem.

-Rhonda Baird

> On Mar 18, 2019, at 10:06 PM, Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 9:31 PM Scott Pittman <scott@permaculture.org
> <mailto:scott@permaculture.org>>
> wrote:
>
>> We have the same problem in the U.S., Donica, the board of directors of
>> the certifying agency has drifted more and more toward the corporate
>> farmers and the fees are becoming to high for most small farmers.
>
>
> Would you believe, those in the money loop simply tell the smaller farmers
> who can not afford certification to "we, you can always get a grant" or
> "turn your farm into a non-profit".
> It is way beyond ludicrous to think that dedicated, skilled, committed
> lifetime natural farmers intent on feeding their fellow Americans the best
> they can produce, might have to "get a grant" in order to make enough money
> to support themselves and their families. I mean, really. Having to become
> a non profit is off the charts of ridiculousness.
>
>
>> The
>> local farmer's market hosts farmers who advertise on their product
>> tables that they are "better than organic". I support their boycott of
>> the certification process and costs.
>>
>> That is trending and growing enormously in numbers of farmers self
> labeling in a way that conveys the fact that they farm using natural
> methods and materials and consistent with their farm ecology.
>
> Do you remember Eric Kindberg? He fought tooth and nail for farmers to
> retain ownership of organic certification and labelling. The dominant
> powers won and the government now owns it.
> I vote for non certified organic or certified naturally grown or just clean
> raised.
>
>
>
>>
>> On 3/16/2019 5:43 PM, DONKA RADEVA via permaculture wrote:
>>> Ahh, this database is unfortunately not full at all, we have over 7000
>> certified organic operators!
>>> Though, in the last years many went bankrupt, as the local politics for
>> certified organic is very unfavorable and this year there were protests
>> against this discrimination policy comparing to conventional ...
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Donka Radeva
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 16, 2019, 8:17:54 PM GMT+2, Lawrence London <
>> lfljvenaura@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Attn: Donka Radeva
>>>
>>> USDA Organic Integrity Database
>>> https://organic.ams.usda.gov/Integrity/
>>>
>>> look at the entries in this certified organic organization database on
>> the
>>> first page
>>> search for Bulgaria: https://organic.ams.usda.gov/Integrity/Search.aspx
>>> just enter one word in the search form, Bulgaria
>>> there are 73 certified organic operations in Bulgaria!
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