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  • From: DONKA RADEVA <donnybg@yahoo.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] 13 Acres in NZ
  • Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 21:57:45 +0000 (UTC)

Amazing project, Steve! Keep hard working and have much luck!
Best wishes to Martina and kids!
Donka

On Monday, January 23, 2017 5:38 AM, Lawrence London
<lfljvenaura@gmail.com> wrote:


On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:00 PM, Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>
wrote:

> 13 acres...river alluvial...just spent 60 hrs on the 14 ton digger doing
> flood retention ponds and swales and flloodways. I'm presently looking at a
>

That is a great plan. I hope it all goes together well. I did something
similar with a large farm tractor and many implements and a medium sized
skid loader: as you said, retention ponds (3), swales/dams/berms/terraces
and the floodways directed at the ponds; excess rainfall carefully
channeled into the ponds from wherever on the property.it originates. I
will post some pix to illustrate the functionality of the overall system.

small flood channel that meanders through the property to design a
> temperate zone chanampa...or real aquaponic system.
>

Will there be eels in the chinampas? There is a big market for eels in
Japan.

I would really like to do this also but my soil ios too permeable to hold
water long enough to support the garden component. I am lucky to keep water
in the retention ponds.


> Put a few Sth Devon
> Bulls on to process pasture, manure one  paddock, chooks have started White
> Orpingtons. Have ordered a range of trees for next planting season
> including 800 apple pear plum and 200 avocado.
>

Wonderful!


> My 4 yr old daughter
> conducted her first inpromtu garden tour the other day for a visitor and
> with her 2 yr old sister put together a salad for lunch consisting of 40
> different species.
>

Now that is living right. Proper salads, the true staff of life! I plan on
a big salad and greens garden this coming Spring
and hopefully plenty of corn, tomatoes, peppers and onions.


> Also in the middle of converting an old cow shed /
> shearing shed into a dwelling..all off grid....a shed it will remain for
> authorities to dwell on...so its all go ...just printed off an AO size
>

Right.


> survey plan to draw up the design for presentation purposes.
>

I would like to see that.


> We will be
> reincarnating the original Permaculture Institute of NZ soon and may seek
> collaboration with Larry n Scott et al for a branch of their Academy. But,
> there is only 36 hrs in a day....all good..Steve Hart
>

That must be done and the sooner the better. You have my recommendation.

Onward!

LL

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Hi Donny..howz the PhD going ? what stage are you at ? perhaps time to
release a few snippets on this network. Do not hesitate to ask for any
material through this network. Did you find any models you could use ? And
we await your arrival in NZ..Steve

On 24 January 2017 at 10:57, DONKA RADEVA via permaculture <
permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:

> Amazing project, Steve! Keep hard working and have much luck!
> Best wishes to Martina and kids!
> Donka
>
> On Monday, January 23, 2017 5:38 AM, Lawrence London <
> lfljvenaura@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:00 PM, Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > 13 acres...river alluvial...just spent 60 hrs on the 14 ton digger doing
> > flood retention ponds and swales and flloodways. I'm presently looking
> at a
> >
>
> That is a great plan. I hope it all goes together well. I did something
> similar with a large farm tractor and many implements and a medium sized
> skid loader: as you said, retention ponds (3), swales/dams/berms/terraces
> and the floodways directed at the ponds; excess rainfall carefully
> channeled into the ponds from wherever on the property.it originates. I
> will post some pix to illustrate the functionality of the overall system.
>
> small flood channel that meanders through the property to design a
> > temperate zone chanampa...or real aquaponic system.
> >
>
> Will there be eels in the chinampas? There is a big market for eels in
> Japan.
>
> I would really like to do this also but my soil ios too permeable to hold
> water long enough to support the garden component. I am lucky to keep water
> in the retention ponds.
>
>
> > Put a few Sth Devon
> > Bulls on to process pasture, manure one paddock, chooks have started
> White
> > Orpingtons. Have ordered a range of trees for next planting season
> > including 800 apple pear plum and 200 avocado.
> >
>
> Wonderful!
>
>
> > My 4 yr old daughter
> > conducted her first inpromtu garden tour the other day for a visitor and
> > with her 2 yr old sister put together a salad for lunch consisting of 40
> > different species.
> >
>
> Now that is living right. Proper salads, the true staff of life! I plan on
> a big salad and greens garden this coming Spring
> and hopefully plenty of corn, tomatoes, peppers and onions.
>
>
> > Also in the middle of converting an old cow shed /
> > shearing shed into a dwelling..all off grid....a shed it will remain for
> > authorities to dwell on...so its all go ...just printed off an AO size
> >
>
> Right.
>
>
> > survey plan to draw up the design for presentation purposes.
> >
>
> I would like to see that.
>
>
> > We will be
> > reincarnating the original Permaculture Institute of NZ soon and may seek
> > collaboration with Larry n Scott et al for a branch of their Academy.
> But,
> > there is only 36 hrs in a day....all good..Steve Hart
> >
>
> That must be done and the sooner the better. You have my recommendation.
>
> Onward!
>
> LL
>
> --
> Lawrence F. London, Jr.
> lfljvenaura@gmail.com
> https://sites.google.com/site/avantgeared
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