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  • From: Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Questions About Lawton's Online PDC Course : Permaculture
  • Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 12:37:01 +1300

Hmmmm....when will the truth be known or for that matter expressed. From my
research Lawton stole this online structure and has manipulated all aspects
for his own personal gain. It is quite obvious to many who stop and think
and bother to ask questions of integrity honesty and quality. But seemingly
many do not ask any questions but stumble blindly on to continue to be
ripped off in many ways, not only financially.

As Scott says..from Buckminster Fuller ..a better alternative needs to be
created. It does exist but has no aggressive marketing. For those who would
would like to research more on this whole and broad subject and find
greater more honest quality email : ecoenzo@gmail.com

Thanks LL...Steve Hart

On 20 October 2016 at 11:07, Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com> wrote:

> [ATTN PDC teachers: Headsup Scott, Steve, Alan, others, skeptics, poseur
> and scam watchers]
>
> "He's trying to get a bargain price on Mollison's big black book for all
> the students."
>
> [Does this mean that Lawton is trying to buy Mollison's student rolodex?
> Why not other organizations more inline with Mollison's original mission
> and PDC?
> There are students all over the world I would assume but planty in the USA
> so why not share it with Steve and Scott?]
> $997 Aus $ - 15000 students for this online course
>
> afterword1 <https://www.reddit.com/user/afterword1> 2 points 23 hours ago
>
> Same question. I was looking forward to it until the marketing got very
> aggressive and smelled a little scheme-y. I'd still participate if someone
> could vouch for the training.
>
> [–]iandcorey <https://www.reddit.com/user/iandcorey>Permaskeptic[S
> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Permaculture/comments/5863x2/
> questions_about_lawtons_online_pdc_course/>
> ] 1 point 19 hours ago
>
> This. But also… 15,000 students.
>
> Questions About Lawton's Online PDC Course (self.Permaculture
> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Permaculture/>)
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/Permaculture/comments/5863x2/
> questions_about_lawtons_online_pdc_course/?st=iuhge1vx&sh=342d559f
>
> fiddledebob <https://www.reddit.com/user/fiddledebob> 3 points 22 hours
> ago
>
> I have not participated in the course, but here is a thread from when it
> was last going on. https://redd.it/1ed0at
>
> Three year old thread
> https://redd.it/1ed0at
>
> Is anyone else besides up2late and myself taking Geoff Lawton's online
> Permaculture Design Course? (self.Permaculture
> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Permaculture/>)
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/Permaculture/comments/1ed0at/
> is_anyone_else_besides_up2late_and_myself_taking/?st=iuhglvdq&sh=bae89fff
> I'm really enjoying it so far, and we've only covered the introduction!
> He's giving us the Permaculture Earthworks course online for free. He's
> trying to get a bargain price on Mollison's big black book for all the
> students. And he posted an hour long video today full of nothing but
> answers to questions students have posted on the website. Enrollment for
> this session is closed, but if the course continues like this and he offers
> another one, I'd highly recommend that folks save up for it. (It was $997
> Australian dollars, so it's not cheap, but I think it's a bargain.)
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