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  • From: Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Are we involved in this network ?
  • Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 13:58:33 +1300

LL

A brief answer to your comments on this subject. I have been involved
through my entire career journey trying to work on the inside in this
industry. As an Architect, Landscape Architect and Urban Designer on a very
wide range of projects for all layers of society in many countries,
including research and academia. It is hard work, without much success.
After being confused over this and discussing such with others more learned
in this than myself and realising wider observations and realisations,
including much discussion with Teddy Goldsmith I am now convinced there is
a carefully managed strategic plan for the organisations that we abhore to
manipulate every entity across the world, infiltrate all our work and
manipulate it to their own ends. You may right this off as you freely have
done in the past. But, you asked for my response. This organisation that I
have highlighted in this debate is a classic example. Ordinarily to the
unwashed one would assume it would be automatic to invite Permaculture
specialists to offer inputs. Sorry they do not want such. They do not want
our solutions. Their agendas are very different to ours.

Perhaps the "Next Big Step" programme we are evolving will offer some
insight into this reality to give us and our future our own strategies for
intervention and infiltration. Or perhaps we look at quite different
strategies and create our own models and pathways. But, it still remains ,
we must become more aware of what our real challenges are and dare i say it
who our enemies really are and what their agendas and programmes are. Steve
Hart

On 12 October 2016 at 04:01, Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 12:35 AM, Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The Business of Landscapes
> > By Duncan Pollard (the Nestle guy)
> > http://www.sustainablefoodlab.org/the-business-of-landscapes/
> >
> > Are landscape approaches the next big thing or a passing fad? The World
> > Business Council for Sustainable Development (WBCSD) , The Sustainable
> > Trade Initiative (IDH), International Union for Conservation of Nature
> > (IUCN), and EcoAgriculture Partners are all part of landscape initiatives
> > sprouting up to promote, learn and encourage companies to get involved.
> But
> > what’s in it for business?
> > Actually, many companies are already involved in landscape approaches,
> > they may just not know it, or call it that. Water stewardship,
> > jurisdictional approaches, and many large-scale projects involving
> multiple
> > stakeholders are all landscape approaches
> >
> > - well, that's pretty straightforward and in sync with basic permaculture
> > principles.
> > Why do they not mention permaculture in their writings or have people in
> > their organizations empowered to integrate permaculture into their
> > proposals, research and outreach?
> >
>
> http://www.sustainablefoodlab.org/the-business-of-landscapes/
>
> A recent seminar convened by EcoAgriculture Partners, Sustainable
> Agriculture Initiative Platform, IUCN and the Sustainable Food Lab set out
> to understand where and how companies should or could be more involved in
> this movement. The consensus from the companies present[1]
> <http://www.sustainablefoodlab.org/the-business-of-landscapes/#_ftn1> was
> that there is a strong case for corporate engagement at a landscape level
> when:
>
> - there is a high level of dependency upon a landscape by the company
> (either through sourcing of raw materials, the presence of fixed assets
> such as a factory, and/or the need for a “license to operate”)
> - there are major sustainability risks that can’t be solved alone i.e.
> local participation and multiple stakeholders are needed, especially
> governments
> - supply chain approaches, with simpler tools such as certification have
> not worked or are unlikely to work
>
> The latter point on simplicity is an important qualifier – landscape
> approaches are complex so need serious commitment and time. From our
> deliberations, two types of sustainability challenges stood out clearly as
> appropriate for landscape approaches:
>
> - Water stewardship
> - Helping farmers become resilient, principally to extreme weather
> events and climate change
>
> There may be others.
>
> The concept of landscapes grew out of the conservation community, and it is
> still seen as a way to deliver conservation outcomes at a broad geographic
> scale. It would arguably be more relevant for companies if the advocates
> promoted the potential to deliver on social outcomes too. Ultimately too,
> governments need to be at the center of any initiative for it to succeed.
>
>
>
> --
> Lawrence F. London, Jr.
> lfljvenaura@gmail.com
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